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Just need some Clarification
So I have a fleet ready to attack New Zealand and there's an enemy one ready to do the same. If I use a supported attack from some other troops to attack the enemy fleet (assuming it has no unit supporting it holding) while moving in to New Zealand with my other fleet what happens?
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David E. Cohen (1000 D)
Sun 11 Nov UTC
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Armistice
100 years today.
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Devonian (1871 D)
29 Jun 15 UTC
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1v1 Tournament Rules, Rankings, and Challenges
Official Rules for 1v1 Ladder Tournament
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PTTG (851 D)
Fri 01 AM UTC
Mistakenly dropped from a game?
Re; gameID=36387. My country was put into CD and I was dropped despite playing as normal and checking in every day.
I don't care about getting back in the game, but I would like to fix my reliability score.
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butterhead (975 D)
21 May 12 UTC
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Advertise your NON-live games here!
In an effort to compromise the pro-ads versus anti-ads for games: Post here for your non-live games to cut down on the number of ads but still advertise games. Post game link, WTA or PPSC, and the bet. Note: this doesn't count for special rules games.
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jmodugno (1048 D)
Mon 12 Nov UTC
Can someone explain this move?
Why did Rumania support to budapest from Galicia fail?
https://vdiplomacy.com/map.php?gameID=36477&turn=6&mapType=large
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ScubaSteve (1199 D)
Thu 08 Nov UTC
Health Problems
I have a couple of games going. One super interesting and one less so. Would anyone be willing to take over?
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Yoshimon (812 D)
Sun 11 Nov UTC
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Replacement
I’m going through some mental health issues right now, and would appreciate if someone would be willing to take over 3 games that I’m currently in
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The Ambassador (1676 D (B) (B))
02 Sep 16 UTC
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New podcast for online Dip games
Hi everyone

Kaner and I have started a podcast about playing Diplomacy online....
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WWII Tournament
I would like to start a tournament. I've seen the Known World and 1v1 tournaments, and those are great fun. So why not apply it to World War II? I'm still working out the details, but I'll post some details.
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gman314 (1016 D)
12 Mar 11 UTC
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Winning
Oli won.
On Imperial Civilization's off-topic thread (link inside), there was a brief stint of Second to Last Person to Post Wins. Now that the thread is closed, Oli won.
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The Ambassador (1676 D (B) (B))
Sat 03 Nov UTC
Kaner temporarily offline
Hi everyone - in case you're waiting on Kaner for any games etc, his internet connection at home has died and his ISP are being difficult. Not smart when his ISP contract ends in a week. So he's going to switch providers in a week and will unfortunately have to "go dark" from vDip for that period of time. But he will be back.
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kaner406 (1375 D Mod (B) (B))
08 Sep 18 UTC
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Variant Development Thread
This thread is made for the express purpose of cutting down of multiple threads that deal with new variants, ideas, concepts etc...
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Mercy (2068 D)
Wed 31 Oct UTC
Newspaper Game
A while ago, some players in threadID=80668 discussed playing another Newspaper game. Meanwhile, more than 7 players have shown their interest to participate in it, but no consensus on the specific settings of the game has been reached yet. I have created this thread to set up the next Newspaper game and discuss its settings.
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nopunin10did (1041 D)
26 Oct 18 UTC
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Recruiting for Dissolution (Play by Slack/Discord/Email)
Next year, starting in Jan or Feb 2019, I will GM a game of Dissolution, a 10-player Diplomacy variant* of my own creation. Dissolution is set in the 1990's, just after the breakup of the Soviet Union. This game is not a vDiplomacy site game; it will be played with most communication handled via IM (either Slack or Discord), with some email too.

More details below.
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The Ambassador (1676 D (B) (B))
Wed 31 Oct UTC
Diplomacy World needs a hand!
The quarterly mag needs a few good Dippers. Find out more at https://mailchi.mp/c18279ad9e1d/diplomacy-world-staff-vacancies and give a hand for the hobby!
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BBQSauce123321 (1461 D)
11 Oct 18 UTC
Grey Fog of War
So I have just discovered variants for both Grey Press and Fog of War. I have no idea how to code so can't make this happen, but if someone was able to combine these two variants, it would make for a very very interesting game, especially in Public Press
CCR (1666 D)
11 Oct 18 UTC
As far as I understand grey press, it could be implemented to any variant, as it would be a feature on game creation steps, as an option amongst normal, public, gunboat, etc
Caerus (1599 D)
11 Oct 18 UTC
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Oooo. A while ago, we had a Grey Press game where all press was supposed to be in the form of Newspaper stories. It’s was great fun, and I think it’d Be even more fun with fog of War, because then you’d have to rely on news stories to tell you what is going on in the world even though you know you can trust all of them.
Anon (?? D)
11 Oct 18 UTC
https://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=36219
Could work Newspaper fog
True Grey press doesn't have to be public. It's like receiving an anonymous but private message.
Caerus (1599 D)
12 Oct 18 UTC
No it doesn't have to be public, but what would be the point? If you can simply reach out in non-grey channels to verify anything you have been told in secret, why wouldn't you simply disbelieve everything in Grey?
You've clearly never played Grey press on the judges. Great fun.
Caerus (1599 D)
13 Oct 18 UTC
You are quite right. In fact, I don't even know what that means...
Grey press games make all the press Grey. So everything you send and everything you receive is anon making verification impossible. But the communications are still private, you just don't know for certain who sent them.
Caerus (1599 D)
13 Oct 18 UTC
Ah... I misunderstood the description on the variant page.
It may be different here. But that is the classic form of Grey press.
ezpickins (1491 D)
13 Oct 18 UTC
I loved playing in the Newspaper game (from way back)
Here's the thread about the Newspaper played: https://www.vdiplomacy.com/forum.php?threadID=62070&page-thread=1#threadPager

And here is the game with messages:
https://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=24273&viewArchive=Messages&page-archive=1#

Feel free to take from it that you like.
G-Man (2227 D)
14 Oct 18 UTC
Grey Public Newspaper Fog would be just awesome! Count me in for the 1st game if we can make this happen here sometime.
Mercy (2068 D)
14 Oct 18 UTC
Yes, that newspaper game from 2015 looks fun.
kaner406 (1375 D Mod (B) (B))
14 Oct 18 UTC
I've been looking for a 2nd game to join - count me in if you are starting a Grey Public Press Newspaper game.
Caerus (1599 D)
18 Oct 18 UTC
I could enjoy another round of the Grey Public Press Newspaper game. Map? Phase of 2 days?
bsiper (1030 D)
18 Oct 18 UTC
Ditto on newspaper fog!
Temasek22 (975 D)
19 Oct 18 UTC
Count me in in the newspaper game too :)
ingebot (1724 D)
22 Oct 18 UTC
Never tried it, count me in!
Caerus (1599 D)
22 Oct 18 UTC
So, as the site is currently set up, Grey press is not a press option as @CCR had thought, but is simply a Classic Variant, so we can't currently play in Grey-Press, Fog-of-War game.

Is this a change to the site that is simple to do, Or are we better off recreating gameID=24273?
G-Man (2227 D)
22 Oct 18 UTC
We can set up an anonymous Fog of War game and stipulate Public Press only. That would give us Anonymous Public Newspaper Fog, which would rock!
Anon (?? D)
23 Oct 18 UTC
Newspaper fog. Please join

gameID=36318
Mercy (2068 D)
23 Oct 18 UTC
I am not going to play PPSC and at least one person who showed interest wanted longer phases so I don't think that the settings are good. Besides, I think you need more explanation for gameID=36318 so that everyone who joins knows the rules.
Mercy (2068 D)
23 Oct 18 UTC
Wait why is it not anynomous if I include gameID=36318 in my post? :p
CAPT Brad (1005 D)
23 Oct 18 UTC
If you are going to be so fussy, make up your own game mercy!
Mercy (2068 D)
23 Oct 18 UTC
Oh I just realised that the game isn't even grey press.
CAPT Brad (1005 D)
23 Oct 18 UTC
Are you going to pop in and out of the game and complain?
Mercy (2068 D)
23 Oct 18 UTC
No, that is not me. And I was indeed planning to set something up myself, but I am very busy right now so I won't join a new game until November 3rd.
G-Man (2227 D)
23 Oct 18 UTC
Yeah, since the game is about pseudo-news, I suggest longer phases so that players have both time to think of and craft fun news, announcements, features, adds... I usually play 2-day phases, but for this, would suggest 3-day phases to really maximize the press. Also would prefer WTA.

We cannot do Grey Press with Fog of War Mercy, but since we want everything told globally anyway, going Anonymous Public Press Fog of War would serve for our purpose.
Mercy (2068 D)
23 Oct 18 UTC
I agree with your settings G-Man, though I am flexible on the phase length and I would prefer grey press, as in gameID=24273 and discussed in threadID=62070.
G-Man (2227 D)
23 Oct 18 UTC
Well, we can play either Fog of War with Anonymous Public Press or Classic with Grey Press — but not Fog of War with Grey Press. Since the idea was to broadcast news anonymously with Fog of War so, between the audio and visual, you would have to figure out what’s true; and since broadcasting the same stories to all will make things far more interesting than being barraged by individualized anonymous press from each power, I think going Anonymous Public Press Fog of War would be best. What is everyone most interested in?

When agreed, we can post up a new game on November 3rd (we should designate one person for this).

And as Mercy said, the ‘newspaper rules’ should be clearly spelled out beforehand as well.
G-Man (2227 D)
23 Oct 18 UTC
Hmmm... actually, anonymous wont help since the country of origin will still be known. But as I read the referred thread, Grey Press apparently let’s normal press through here. So, as in the previous game, we’d have to give up the Fog of War wisual element and play Classic Grey Press with a Gentlemen’s Agreement to post only Grey (anonymous) Public Press news stories/features/related items and no individual messages at all (even though the Classic Grey Press variant allows them).
kaner406 (1375 D Mod (B) (B))
23 Oct 18 UTC
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Why not set up a grey press game public press only game (then pause the game) use that one for newspaper communication and a gunboat fog of war game? It's a little awkward but it would do the trick, it would also prevent the 'accidental' publishing of who is writing the press, given that the countries would be different in both games.
G-Man (2227 D)
24 Oct 18 UTC
Interesting and creative solution Kaner, but terribly clunky. I wonder if the Grey Press code could be fairly easily applied to Fog of War? I've put in a query with the Mods on that.
Mercy (2068 D)
24 Oct 18 UTC
Creative indeed Kaner, that may work.
G-Man, we need Oli to make new variants, and I have heard that he is tremendously busy. That is also the reason why the variant I was working on (World Diplomacy X) is still not published. I thus have little hope that we will get a 'Fog of War grey press' variant in time.
G-Man (2227 D)
24 Oct 18 UTC
I’m game, but I’m not so sure how attractive this will be to others (thoughts?). I assume we’d just make the “dummy” game unrated and save it for the press afterward?
After multiple weeks, I finally have an answer as to why we don't have a Fog of War Grey Press yet. What if Grey Press could become a setting for games similar to public press or gunboat? (I am also down for the multiple game Fog of War newspaper press, if it happens)


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The Ambassador (1676 D (B) (B))
26 Mar 18 UTC
vDip Google Map...
Where is it again? I tried finding it referenced in old forum threads but as search is non-existent, lucked out.
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Chumbles (1065 D)
07 Oct 18 UTC
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Smelly stand-ins/replacements
We have a situation, a 'metagaming' tactic which thoroughly distorts gunboat games' outcomes. Replacement players don't have to have the same RRas the game originally required. Thus we can get a replacement whose sole purpose is to recover their own RR by suiciding - moving their own units out of their centres in so another player can move in entirely uncontested.
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ingebot (1724 D)
04 Oct 18 UTC
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Workaround to "forced" ready
In rulebook press, part of the idea is that for retreat and builds it forces you to ready up. However, simply by then pressing "not ready", the order changes to "saved". Is it possible to promote the original idea of this press type by making the state of "not ready" equal to "no orders received"?
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Bismark (985 D)
05 Oct 18 UTC
Can't build in a free SC?
I'm playing World War II and I've got 2 SC's free for example, but I can only build in one of them, I think it might have something to do with units bounced on the other SC in Autumn? Is this some rule somewhere that I've missed or an error?
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ingebot (1724 D)
30 Sep 18 UTC
Hidden orders?
I'm recently back from a year and a half hiatus, and have noticed for a while that for anonymous games it no longer shows who has saved their orders, readied, or not entered orders yet. I can understand why this was done (I've exploited the old system extensively), just curious at to when this change was made, whether there was any discussion on the potential change, and why I haven't seen any information on the change in the rules/feature sections?
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ingebot (1724 D)
28 Sep 18 UTC
IA map issue with English Channel
In the variant World War II, I never seem to be able to move to the English Channel using the IA interface, when I press the space it simply says something about the North Sea being not adjacent to the original position of the unit. It's never came up with any other location. Is this a common issue, or is it just me (I'll message the mods either way, just to get a sense of what might be going on here)?
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This is likely to be my last forum post.
I'm sure the mods are pissed and I don't give a fuck. I could use a break anyhow. So silence or banhammer away.
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What's the point in muting a nation in non-anon if the mods will let the player PM you?
A player PMed me after I muted his nation and the mods said it's not against the rules. It would seem to me to violate the intent of the press rules if not the letter. I have since muted the player for the rest of the game but that was not my desire.
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Known World Tournament
Awhile back, kaner proposed a Known World gunboat tournament in which 15 participants would play 15 games, one with each nation. I searched back for the thread, then just decided to start a new one. I want to see if there would be sufficient interest in this to try to get it off the ground.
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Kaiser Heide (1013 D)
15 Sep 18 UTC
Looking for a group.
Looking for a group of people that play pretty consistently if y’all want to add another to your group lmk. I’m interested.
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The Ambassador (1676 D (B) (B))
16 Aug 18 UTC
Obscure group of vDip folks who love History podcasts
Ok I was just starting to pull together the files for the latest Diplomacy Games episode and was chilling to the theme song from the podcast History on Fire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOr0na6mKJQ ...
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Major Problems (1169 D)
07 Sep 18 UTC
finding replacement for game 34637
Due to outside circumstances, I find I am not able to continue to fully participate in the Embassy Cable game (Gobble Earth variant). The game is currently on an extend phase for another day, so if anyone is willing to take over for Mexico (solid position) please let me know so we can have the mods put you into the game. Thanks!
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Enriador (1491 D (B))
05 Sep 18 UTC
[New Variant] East Indies
Hello again diplomats,

New variant coming up on vDip, taking place in a quite familiar setting for some of us.
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