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Guaroz (2030 D (B))
20 Apr 12 UTC
Classic starting
gameID=7674
Special rule: everybody knows I'm in, so it's not a true Anon.
PW: semi
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canaduh (1293 D)
21 Apr 12 UTC
Question: if you mute someone, do they know they have been muted?
A second question is can you ever play with them again?
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ezpickins (1717 D)
21 Apr 12 UTC
Game is Stuck Due to a player who left
We paused the game, and this player has abdicated for no apparent reason. It appears he has left for good. We need to find a way to unpause the game and/or get a replacement. The game is gameID=6973
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ashleygirl (1285 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
My apologies
I am truly sorry for abandoning my game last year. Without getting into detail I lost some extremely close to me and I did not handle it well. I look forward to playing with those of you who are still here and with new victims as well.
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Lukas Podolski (1234 D)
18 Apr 12 UTC
Team Games
sorry guys I haven't been here for quite a while so I just want to see if there are any pending team games welcoming participants at the moment. Or is there anyone interested in starting one?
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sqrg (1186 D)
30 Mar 12 UTC
NorthSeaWars testgame
Any players with a lab account want to test my new North Sea Wars variant? It's finished, just looking for bugs.
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Fast Paces WW4 map.
I was wondering if I created a WW4 map in the near future that had phases of about 12 to 16 hours would enough people be interested. If I get enough people to agree on it I could even make it less than 12 hour phases. Would anyone be interested?
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War is Blind-Classic: Fog of War map
gameID=7680 War is Blind is back up rejoin if you were in it before or join if you were not. We will need another player anyway since the guy before had to quit.
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Guaroz (2030 D (B))
20 Apr 12 UTC
standard gunboat
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canaduh (1293 D)
19 Apr 12 UTC
New variant on a variant
1v1 games are all very well (just been thrashed - and quite enjoyed it), but it seems crazy that someone from France can just walk into Germany on their way to Austria.
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Wolfman (1230 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
Possible bug found in this game.
Oli, I think I have stubble across a bug on this variant.
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gjdip (1503 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
For your own personal enjoyment . . .
. . . join now:

http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=7529
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King Atom (1186 D)
19 Apr 12 UTC
Habelya Team Game
We need a replacement for a Habelya team game. The teams are:
Saltz+Holgii+Hacklers, Gernavia+Trylikia, Bramia+Glock+Elenia
Here is the link:
gameID=6928
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Raro (1449 D)
19 Apr 12 UTC
Bug in settings?
For a few days now, it's not been possible to change my quote in the 'settings' tab. It seems like it started when the new 'give-away' feature was implemented. Possibly related?
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airborne (970 D)
18 Apr 12 UTC
Group Project?: 1900
http://forum.webdiplomacy.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=641&p=4762#p4762
(Not my lab for once lol)
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World game (WWIV) where you need every SC to win
Who's interested?
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~ Diplomat ~ (1036 D X)
26 Mar 12 UTC
Where do we belong to? And what are our Professions?
I am from INDIA(www.incedibleindia.org)....
And I am a Student of Science!
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gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
18 Apr 12 UTC
Awards for innovation are very different from sales. My perception was always that he was lashing together all of the good sized players who were being pushed to the wall by Ford in the hope of gaining the scale to compete. I also thought that Jersey Standard developing Tetryl-Lead additives was the only thing that saved GM creating a market for higher performance vehicles that buyers were willing to pay a premium for. I did not think that any of the GM components really maintained any identity within the whole and Sloan just used them as nameplates when he developed his branding strategy.
SacredDigits (978 D)
18 Apr 12 UTC
They definitely maintained an identity. Having lived in Lansing for a long period of time, where they were continuing to manufacture Oldsmobiles at the time I lived there, Oldsmobile definitely had an identity and continued to be made in the area that the company had been created. Same with Cadillac, which additionally Ford did not leave because it was failing, he left because of creative differences with his partners.

Of course GM would rebadge things so that you had the Chevette which was also a Pontiac T1000, but there was an emphasis on continuing to have identity for each brand. Much moreso than Ford/Lincoln/Mercury, for instance.

I understand that you feel very strongly about your fellow Houstonites and in some cases relatives getting a place in history, but devaluing Henry Ford to insignificance in order to elevate them is ridiculous. There's no limit on how many men can said to be influential, and Ford's influence (for better or worse) spread far beyond making an affordable car. Fordism as a business strategy was pretty significant, and he had a great hand in the Great Migration, a pretty significant event in US history.
gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
19 Apr 12 UTC
But my question was to what degree was that organic and what degree was it a marketing exercise on the part of Sloan in 1922.

Let us be clear what Ford did. Gasoline prices fell and he took practices that had been developed by Swift and Armour in the 1870s and implemented those practices in an auto industry that already existed. The Jungle was written about the meat packing industry for a reason. It seems strange to us, but Swift and Armour were the second and third largest corporations in the US in the 1910s after US Steel. Ford did not create "Fordism" the Chicago hog butchers did. He vertically integrated as US Steel had. Standard Oil and the meat packers did not. As for the Great Migration, the boll weevil and the mechanization of cotton picking played a pretty big role and Chicago, Philadelphia, DC, Baltimore, New York, Cleveland and Indianapolis ended up with a lot of Great Migraters. Ford's greatest original contribution was probably the invention of the charcoal bricket. My point was had Ford not been there at that moment someone else, perhaps less effectively, would have taken these ideas that all existed and were well known and put them together. The drilling and refining innovations were the important ones. Technologies are discovered, exist and are forgotten all of the time. Most of the great discoveries that we know all about are bogus. They are ideas that came and went multiple time until another technology happens to be present at the same time and in the same place. Falling energy prices made ideas practical that had never been practical before. The Ancient Romans had the steam engine. Kelly invented the Bessemer Process decades earlier. Multiple ancient or semi-ancient societies developed something pretty close to the Bessemer Process. Frasch's patent had almost expired when his process was made practical by falling energy prices. Ford DID NOT invent the assembly line. We know that he went to Chicago to inspect the slaughter houses as he was designing his assembly lines. He did not invent vertical integration. One significant difference is that US Steel actually remained intentionally inefficient to protect its sunk costs in facilities that were less efficient, so Ford may have been one of the first people to build an integrated operation as opposed to assembling one. I don't think that anyone claims that the Model T was the best car of its era. But other people were not designing cars to be mass produced for a mass market because in 1907 that was an utterly impractical thing to do. And honestly, the Model T was not that great by that standard either. Ford scaled up first and scale created cost savings, which drove down price, which lead to volume, which afforded even greater scale, which created more savings and so on. Maybe he was smarter than his competitors and recognized the new reality faster or was more ruthless in squeezing efficiency out of scale, but I still rank Swift and Armour well ahead of him as they were true innovators. BTW, the Model T was born on my birthday, so I've always had a great fascination with all of its creation mythology. When I was in college, I applied for a National Endowment for the Humanities Grant to write a book on this subject. They told me that I had to have a PhD in a Humanities field and be associated with a major university to have any chance of getting funding.
gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
19 Apr 12 UTC
But I considered taking a year off to write a book on this subject.
gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
19 Apr 12 UTC
But I'm also on record for thinking that Raskob is hugely under-appreciated for saving GM and hiring Sloan.


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The Moran (1421 D)
18 Apr 12 UTC
off topic thread for Fanfare World map
Because we want the chat to remain legit.
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King Atom (1186 D)
18 Apr 12 UTC
Gather 'Round The Campfire...
...And let me tell you a story!
http://members.tripod.com/~Troop42_BSA/Campfire.gif
http://www.goodecompany.com/assets/images/campfire-dancing.jpg
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Wolfman (1230 D)
08 Apr 12 UTC
Possible Summer League
Looking for 1 game to play this summer. I was thinking 4 or 5 day phases. No complaining on not readying orders. As I know I will be very busy myself. Figured if I found enough interest in playing we could pick a variant based on how many are interested. Reply if your interested in playing. Maybe a larger bet to make it worth the wait. However, not looking to put all my eggs in one basket (honor of Easter today). Let me know if your interested and you feel on the entry fee.
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javidtl (976 D)
18 Apr 12 UTC
Classic Chaos
This a Classic Chaos. We need 5 more people to join before we start. It's going to be funny, join it!!

http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=7433
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javidtl (976 D)
17 Apr 12 UTC
Join this game
This is a Fall of the American Empire IV map. Please join it, it's going to be fun.

http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=7597
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G-Man (2516 D)
16 Apr 12 UTC
Settings Page Error
When I try to update items on the Settings Page, I am getting the following error:
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Rancher (1109 D)
17 Apr 12 UTC
7 Islands
two new 7 Island games set up
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You Can't Handle the Truth!
Well, can you?
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Shep315 (1435 D)
17 Apr 12 UTC
Wanted: Firenze
http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=6835
password: nodraws

we need a new Firenze in this game, pretty good position with opportunity to grow. The player was put into CD after a pause was requested by one of the other players and Firenze never returned to vote unpause
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amisond (1280 D)
12 Apr 12 UTC
People not playing last turn
I have noticed in a lot of games when a player has no SC's left but still has units they are still give a build phase and will usually let it run the full time. Is there any way to change the programming so that if a player has 0 SC's then their units are automatically destroyed at the build phase?
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G-Man (2516 D)
16 Apr 12 UTC
Extreme Personalities (entertainment only)
Good show everyone!
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Oli (977 D Mod (P))
14 Apr 12 UTC
Give country to another player feature...
New feature (but this is BETA).
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~ Diplomat ~ (1036 D X)
14 Apr 12 UTC
Hey, Diplomats I am back from long trip. Thank you all for your support.
I was in Kasia, Uttar Pradesh, India near Kushinagar where Buddha Died(Maha Parinirwana). Rural but awesome. I was desprate to play again...I am back now...:)
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