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bache (807 D X)
05 Jun 23 UTC
hi
where are you from
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bache (807 D X)
24 Jul 23 UTC
Some maps are not balanced.SO...
Some maps are not balanced,like Fubar,WW2.
Choose-your-country-games are not fair.It is a problem maybe...
bache (807 D X)
24 Jul 23 UTC
hey
hurricane (819 D X)
24 Jul 23 UTC
WW2 is a balanced variant comparing to many other variants in my opinion :)
MagicalSand (1934 D)
24 Jul 23 UTC
Africa is a stupidly broken variant imho. Morocco is just too damn strong in it.
Orange (2307 D)
24 Jul 23 UTC
Modern Europe, both broken balance wise and also broken code wise (as in there's a lot of weirdness with it, a number of provinces not seeming set up right in interactive map mode, provinces that don't color in right, fleet in Madrid...)
GOD (1878 D Mod (B))
24 Jul 23 UTC
The whole point of FUBAR is to be unbalanced, just Google the acronym.
drano019 (2613 D Mod)
24 Jul 23 UTC
I do think there's a valid point in this thought process that some maps need to be looked at again potentially for some minor balance and playability changes.

I'm sure many people have noticed how Divided States and Europa Renovatio tend to just end up at the same stalemate lines most of the time, leading to games that feel a bit "incomplete". And that these lines are significantly easier for some people to get to than others, leading to differing ability of powers to basically "guarantee" a draw fairly early on if they rush certain spots.

I would say there's rationale for some experienced players and map makers to go through some of them and potentially consider a "2.0" map for some of them like Modern Europe, Europa Renovatio, Divided States, Africa, etc.
Sail Ho II. I think South having that much space and leeway is a massive oversight compared to the cramped location North, East, and West share.

But yeah. Unbalanced maps are annoying in gunboat and regular dip. I think some maps are meant to be unbalanced and that imbalance can be counteracted by good dip and targeting board leaders, and overall keeping everything and everyone in check like in Imperial. Though at the end of the day, I think one must make do with the hand dealt with them. I have no qualms targeting a specific power right off the bat just because I don't want to deal with their nigh invincibility but at the same time, I ask myself if that's really a fair assessment
CoffeeAndKeyboards (1666 D)
24 Jul 23 UTC
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Of course, we can't forget about Chesspolitik! Man, that map is hella unbalanced. Russia is too strong! There needs to be a rework soon /j
I'd also love to add: South American Supremacy. Although there are few games on vDip and thus there's a small sample size, it's been almost unanimously agreed upon to be the worst and most unbalanced map in Conspiracy as soon as it was released. I can only imagine the nightmare of gunboat when you're playing as a power that's neither Argentina nor Colombia
HelloMyNameIsBob (1201 D)
24 Jul 23 UTC
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Personally I think Duo is the most unbalanced map
The WW2 variant being referred to is WW2- a world at war.

No, but by far the most unbalanced is the 13th century Mongolian empire!
Fake Al (1857 D)
24 Jul 23 UTC
For one thing, you have to remember the purpose of vDip has been to test out variants. There's never been much quality control, it was always more wild west. If the creator wanted to release it, it would be released. Hence how you get stuff like that A World at War abomination.

Balancing a variant is really hard, and it needs a lot of testing. Another thing to keep in mind is that balance kind of depends on who's playing. If all the players are familiar with the variant's balance, they can adjust their strategies accordingly. That only goes so far. I think Renascimento is purposely unbalanced and that's why games of that never affect the players' scores.
Fake Al (1857 D)
24 Jul 23 UTC
I don't know how difficult it is to do a 2.0 of a variant after it's already been released. I remember something Oli telling me that once a variant's released, it can't be changed. Not too sure about that. I guess someone could revise and existing variant and release it as a new one.
GOD (1878 D Mod (B))
24 Jul 23 UTC
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There is precedent with the 1066 variant having undergone two rounds of revisions, or WWIV. I think that the way is to release the updated version as a new variant.
Or perhaps something like the Rinascimento variant’s scoring, where the unbalanced starting positions should be factored into the final result.
bache (807 D X)
27 Jul 23 UTC
yeah,scoring is a way to solve the problem
David E. Cohen (1000 D)
27 Jul 23 UTC
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Or different victory criteria for each Power. My Dawn of the Enlightenment variant (which is unfortunately not on vDip), has victory criteria on a sliding scale, based upon the starting size of the Powers.
Mitomon (2196 D)
28 Jul 23 UTC
Nah, my win in gameID=54114 was hard-earned


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bache (807 D X)
22 Jul 23 UTC
join!
can you join this?play asap
https://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=56719
https://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=56719
https://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=56719
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bache (807 D X)
20 Jul 23 UTC
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How to get a game's link?I want to give links to others.
help!
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David Hood (976 D)
20 Jul 23 UTC
July 2023 Deadline News Is Out
July 2023 Deadline News just released - Interview with Renegade folk about new Diplomacy set, a new segment called Top Five where panelists give their top answer to five Diplomacy-related questions, and headlines from around the world of Diplomacy.
https://youtu.be/WCgoeP0kGBo
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han-shahanshah (1459 D)
20 Jun 23 UTC
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New variants?
I recently stumbled upon this seemingly abandoned play-by-email site: http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/variants.php
which got me wondering if it would be possible to move any of those files here. Looks like there is a wide range of maps and rule edits among the variants that we don't have here, has anyone played any of those before?
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flipster14191 (1313 D)
07 Jul 23 UTC
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Anon games with ready symbol?
Is anyone else interested in being able to have anon games where you can still see if people have readied their orders or not? Like how there is an option for hidden draw votes, would it be possible to have an option to either have or not have hidden order status?
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Why am I still a "Political Puppet"
I'm rather curious. Is it my rating? The amount of tokens I hold? I'm willing to bet it's because of my exceptionally low reliability, but I do want concrete answers if there are
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folie (1743 D)
14 Jul 23 UTC
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Diplomacy puzzles
What if there were Diplomacy puzzles, functioning similarly to Chess puzzles? i.e. you would start with a complicated troop setup and you would have to figure out what the best orders are, or how to guarantee X supply centers in Y turns. Is there something like this that already exists? I couldn’t find much of anything online beyond a few one-offs.
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somebody909 (1012 D)
26 Jan 23 UTC
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Shhh Secret Variants
This is a story about finding the variant with the fewest games played and it lead to a deep dive into the secret variants that aren't on the variants table...
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gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
30 Jun 23 UTC
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To GOD and anyone else in Vienna
https://twitter.com/derJamesJackson/status/1674698281895469057
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x3n (1502 D)
27 Jun 23 UTC
Pure variant is build anywhere?
If the Pure variant is a "build anywhere" game (and I believe that it is), that needs to be added to the Special Rules/Information section of its page.

https://www.vdiplomacy.net/variants.php?variantID=11
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David Hood (976 D)
22 Jun 23 UTC
June Edition of Dip News show just released
The latest edition of Deadline, DBN's monthly new program, has just been released on YouTube: https://youtu.be/EgwV6uuxjF0 This month we have a feature about Virginia hobbyist Hal Schild, an interview with recent Dipcon winner and British player Mikalis Kamaritis, and headlines from around the world of Diplomacy.
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MagicalSand (1934 D)
17 Jun 23 UTC
Looking for replacement players for a private game
Looking for various players to replace players in a private Europa Renavito game I set up. Since the majority of players in said game are comeptlely new to Vdip, some of them have been having bad NMRs and CDing. There is some positions which ain't half bad that can viable that need filling.
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nopunin10did (1041 D)
16 Jun 23 UTC
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Discord Variants: Two New Maps in July, Prep for 2024 Tournament
Hey all, NoPunIn10Did here. I hope you're enjoying Chesspolitik!

I'm revving up to playtest two new variants this July: "Sub-Saharan" (1881 Africa) and "Succession & Legacy" (1703 Europe). Details to follow.
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Finkelboat Coordination
Hello all,
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IRL politics
What's the etiquette regarding discussing IRL politics and ethics over here? Would love to engage in some healthy debate, and I definitely am not asking just because I have due homework regarding certain political and ethical issues haha
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gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
06 Jun 23 UTC
Happy today...to those who celebrate.
https://www.youtube.com/@D-Day24Hours-sm5pe/videos
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gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
23 May 23 UTC
Aussie Mafia Defend your degeneracy, if you can
Mustard in mashed potatoes?

https://youtu.be/PNlvPWpWwDs?t=397
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Henrylynn2021 (980 D)
25 May 23 UTC
Is it possible to start a game by myself?
I want to start a game where I control all of the powers. I want to test moves/strategy. Is it possible to start a sandbox or a game by myself?
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gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
24 May 23 UTC
Texas invades France
I found this today and got sucked in. Curious about European cultural reaction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn6SHgN0oBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR_LJUHP7dc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpx_fDZVsLc
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David Hood (976 D)
26 May 23 UTC
May 2023 Deadline News is Out!
Diplomacy Broadcast Network has just released the latest edition of its Diplomacy news show. Interviews with Keith Worstell (Superstition) about Nexus, Randy Lawrence-Hurt about how acting and Diplomacy can be similar, and headlines from around the world of Diplomacy. Link:
https://youtu.be/htuD27ODGT0
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GOD (1878 D Mod (B))
22 May 23 UTC
Please take over open positions
A player has left the site and 23 games in a fit of rage. Please consider taking up the positions to save the games. Time has been added to ensure a smooth takeover.
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CBro27 (1436 D)
25 May 23 UTC
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Stats bug?
Was just looking at my stats, and my “all games” show 30 total games played, but the “variants” stats show 33. Any ideas on why this is?
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AJManso4 (2361 D)
13 May 23 UTC
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Eurovision
Anyone watching the final tonight?
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gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
22 May 23 UTC
God help me, a positive word about Fox News
The Wall Street Journal published an article over the weekend that mentioned in passing the fact that Epstein changed his will shortly before dying to list Bill Gates's personal "Science Advisor" (presumably Myhrvold's replacement) as the executor of his will. This was news to me, and Google indicates that Fox News was the only major American media organization to cover this fact in 2019.
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MacMillanwu (1000 D X)
20 May 23 UTC
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20 May 23 UTC
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20 May 23 UTC
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20 May 23 UTC
P2Pah Diablo 4 :Split into Acclimatized Tiles
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