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gman314 (1016 D)
12 Mar 11 UTC
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Winning
Oli won.
On Imperial Civilization's off-topic thread (link inside), there was a brief stint of Second to Last Person to Post Wins. Now that the thread is closed, Oli won.
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Word Association Thread
Hello! I saw a thread like this on WebDip. We start with a word, and you then post the one word that pops into your mind after you read that word. The first word is FIRST.
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kaner406 (1368 D (B) (B))
24 Sep 16 UTC
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I've been Boursed!!! 2016
Hi all, when Amby and I were recording our recent podcast (diplomacygames.com) the topic of Bourse came up, and I got really excited and thought that I would try to get another game of this variant running...
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butterhead (961 D)
21 May 12 UTC
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Advertise your NON-live games here!
In an effort to compromise the pro-ads versus anti-ads for games: Post here for your non-live games to cut down on the number of ads but still advertise games. Post game link, WTA or PPSC, and the bet. Note: this doesn't count for special rules games.
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The Ambassador (1678 D (B) (B))
02 Sep 16 UTC
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New podcast for online Dip games
Hi everyone

Kaner and I have started a podcast about playing Diplomacy online....
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Devonian (1824 D)
29 Jun 15 UTC
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1v1 Tournament Rules, Rankings, and Challenges
Official Rules for 1v1 Ladder Tournament
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Strider (1113 D)
Mon 24 Apr UTC
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Anzac Day remembrance
Waking for this Anzac Days dawn service reminds me why we should not forget WWI. With threats of agression again escalating has nothing been learnt!
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Mitomon (920 D)
Mon 17 Apr UTC
Diplomacy: Is Germany Too Weak?
I noticed that Germany is considerably weaker in Diplomacy than it's historical counterpart. In game, Germany can very easily be knocked out by England and France. However, historically Germany was able to fight competently on three separate fronts. Does anybody feel that Germany is a little misrepresented in game?
More importantly, are there any variants that address this?
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The Ambassador (1678 D (B) (B))
20 Mar 17 UTC
Fixing the Pirates variant
With the new Lab up and running, as discussed in the DiplomacyGames podcast I'm keen to iron out the bugs in Pirates that people hate...
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Variant Tournaments
I've really enjoyed playing variant-specific tournaments such as the Known World 15x15 currently underway.
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Mitomon (920 D)
Mon 17 Apr UTC
What is your favorite board game?
I heard you guys like to play Risk.
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Known World Tournament
Awhile back, kaner proposed a Known World gunboat tournament in which 15 participants would play 15 games, one with each nation. I searched back for the thread, then just decided to start a new one. I want to see if there would be sufficient interest in this to try to get it off the ground.
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The Ambassador (1678 D (B) (B))
Wed 19 Apr UTC
Feedback for 1v1 Cold War on WWIV map
Hi folks, some of you may have heard me talk on the podcast about bringing the WWIV map to a Cold War circa 1984 1v1 variant. Interested in your thoughts about whether I use the standard WWIV map, the v6.2 version (is there any actual difference in the map itself?) or whether the sealane version would be better. Thoughts?
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The Problem Thread
This thread is if you have a problem you post and then everyone will try to help you with your problem.
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Happy Rome Day
since today (April 21) is Rome's 2770th birthday, I thought it would be nice to fill this thread with stories of the glory of Rome:
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Captainmeme (1591 D Mod (B))
Sat 22 Apr UTC
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Reminder: ALWAYS check the settings of games you join!
Hi all,
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The Muting Thread
This is the thread that everyone mutes.
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Captainmeme (1591 D Mod (B))
01 Apr 17 UTC
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IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT ON VDIPLOMACY'S FUTURE
Please see within for details on the vDiplomacy Referendum.
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GOD (1694 D Mod (B))
28 Jan 16 UTC
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Can't stop the Trump
Does anyone here has a clue as to why Donald Trump is boycotting the latest republican debate? Seems to have only downsides and risks without a real gain to me. Enlighten me please.
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RUFFHAUS 8 (2502 D)
18 Feb 17 UTC
Mouse, your comments posted here indicate that you do not appear to understand anything about the purpose of the Electoral College. Maybe that is incorrect, but your criticism of it suggest exactly that. here's no evidence to support anything about the Electoral College trending towards a two party system. The process would work exactly the same if there were multiple parties. Your view of a senate is your view. However, it has nothing to do with the Unites States Senate. At least you understand that though. Could you at least try to have a point? Your commentary is so esoteric and hypothetical that it's pointless to debate.

As for Israel, if it were as easy as you say to disagree with them without bigotry, we wouldn't have so much violence concerning it's existence. Palestine is a former British colony, not a nation. Israel is very much in the "right" in it's disagreements with those who would create a separate state there. Israel is a nation. The only reason that anyone wants to create a separate Palestinian state is because of a hatred of Israel, a hate based upon religious bigotry. Israel has defended itself from within and without for 70 years, exercising considerable restraint considering the threats it faces to this day from terrorist factions, terror states, and their financial backers. Yes, it's possible to disagree with Israel's position absent bigotry, but anyone doing so is rather ignorant of the surrounding facts.

Samj (1631 D)
18 Feb 17 UTC
RUFF - Some people just don't want to admit the world works the way it does. They want to believe in some kind of Utopia. But as long as humans are involved, you can forget that. Everyone makes their opinions based on their life experiences. Some have not been out in the real world before, so have based their opinions on what someone else has taught them. To them, they are right. But until they get a dose of reality face to face, they will never agree with those of us who HAVE faced it and lived to tell of it. I applaud your endeavor to educate some on here about what you have learned firsthand, but I am afraid you are wasting your breath (keystrokes). We will never change their minds as long as they can continue to run to those who provide support for their beliefs. I have family I just agree to disagree with... then love 'em... It's what we do. But here there is no way to have a rational conversation with those who are borderline rabid for their cause, no matter how many facts you throw out, they run on emotion.
Mitomon (920 D)
18 Feb 17 UTC
And I thought the webdip forums were overly political : P
mouse (1418 D)
18 Feb 17 UTC
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RUFFHAUS - some would argue that imposing a nation of refugees in the semitic inhabitants of the area to be a highly anti-semitic act in itself, naturally tainting any subsequent interactions between that state and other inhabitants of the region :p

While the electoral college would, on paper, work the same way if there were multiple parties, it (as with every single representative, first part the post system) encourages local elections to be between two candidates only - any others detract from an otherwise preferable candidate. While I'm generalising this effect over each election, and assuming the same parties being those two (which I believe I'm jutified to do with regard to the USA, given, you know, that's /exactly how it's happened/) I'll cede it's not always the case - eg. in the UK, in Scotland the Scottish Nationalist Party is typically one of the two parties actually in contention, while elsewhere the split is more commonly Tory/Labour.
But for the USA, I'll accept that the system as it is (regardless of what the rules are on paper, which is all you appear to be arguing?) doesn't actively discourage third parties as soon as you can point out a third party that actually has representation remotely proportional to its voter base at a federal level ;)
vallk (880 D)
18 Feb 17 UTC
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" in it's disagreements with those who would create a separate state there. Israel is a nation. The only reason that anyone wants to create a separate Palestinian state is because of a hatred of Israel"
I know yall are having a reasonable argument, but can we take a second to appreciate how ridiculous that statement is
gopher27 (1208 D)
18 Feb 17 UTC
There are at present more "Palestinians" in Jordan than there are in Israel. I do not believe that I have ever heard anyone speak of the moral case for carving a Palestinian State out of Jordanian territory. "Palestine" as a concept was only created after the 1905 revolution in the Ottoman Empire in order to group into a single administrative unit the collection of sites most popular with European tourists (they were split between three different provinces in 1905) as the Young Turks wanted to place internal travel restrictions on foreigners to keep them from wandering around too much while visiting Jerusalem. What "Palestinians" have in common to bind them together as an identity group is Israel (and really only Israel). It is a fairly specious claim to assert that people living in Gaza in 1905 felt more kinship with people living on the West Bank of the River Jordan than with people a few miles away in Sinai or in Aqaba for that matter or that farmers on one side of the River Jordan felt more kinship with urbanites in Gaza than with farmers on the other side of the river.

While absolute statements are almost always ridiculous, animus towards Israel is at the heart of people's reasoning for a Palestinian State in most cases. Now I think people have made other claims above that are similarly specious as simplistic "brown good, white bad" reasoning is prevalent enough on the Left throughout the West to provide an understandable basis for an anti-Israel hostility that is not rooted in religious based hatred.

Nelson Mandela wandered off the farm long enough to make a few public statements before being muzzled by the ANC after Abacha began summarily executing Ogoni leaders. He pointed out that he had no confidence that any Black led regime in Africa (in 1993) would have provided him the public trial with legitimate representation that he received in the Rivonia Trial had he committed the same acts against the regime. Obviously, no Black led regime was ever subjected to the kind of forceful criticism that the Afrikaner regime was faced with for decades. A logical interpretation would be that white people view Human Rights as not actually being universal but rather a higher ethical standard that a superior race is held to while no similar expectations can be placed upon "the savages". I believe the phrase for that is "the soft bigotry of low expectations".
mapleleaf (1216 D)
31 Mar 17 UTC
Mike Flynn, who led the chants of "lock her up!", is now requesting immunity in exchange for testimony.

...and so it finally begins.

lol....
kaner406 (1368 D (B) (B))
31 Mar 17 UTC
Link?
mapleleaf (1216 D)
31 Mar 17 UTC
Pete? Julie? Adam?....
RUFFHAUS 8 (2502 D)
31 Mar 17 UTC
tumbleweeds
mapleleaf (1216 D)
01 Apr 17 UTC
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A sitting President just wrote a $25 million check to settle a fraud suit.

lol. God bless murica.
mapleleaf (1216 D)
07 Apr 17 UTC
Nothing to say, Trumpanzees?
kaner406 (1368 D (B) (B))
08 Apr 17 UTC
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Now now mapleleaf, jumping up and down insulting chimpanzees isn't going to achieve much. Post a link to the news articles please.
mapleleaf (1216 D)
08 Apr 17 UTC
Google it. It's not difficult.
mapleleaf (1216 D)
08 Apr 17 UTC
I'll help you out. It involved Trump University.
Do you guys reckon we can get Foreign Affairs degrees from Trump University? We should be able to get credit for all our efforts here.
gopher27 (1208 D)
08 Apr 17 UTC
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As compared to a sitting President writing a check with government money to settle a law suit over leaking a woman's FBI file in an act of obstruction of justice to retaliate against her as a perceived political enemy (Linda Tripp) or writing another check to settle a law suit for sexual harassment of a government employee back in Arkansas (Paula Jones)? Lewinsky had a bigger law suit but never filed, given that the Clintons unquestionably used her FBI file to publicly smear her in the press as testified to by Christopher Hitchens. And lest anyone forget, Obama was given a house by a gangster (Tony Rezko) who was convicted of public corruption charges while he was running for President. The wife of Governor Blagojevich (currently in jail on separate public corruption charges) was the realtor involved.
mapleleaf (1216 D)
08 Apr 17 UTC
Love the desperate attempts at deflection.

We're discussing neither Clintons nor Obama.

We're discussing your child molester hero.

gopher27 (1208 D)
08 Apr 17 UTC
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What exactly is your claim? A somewhat huckstery real estate developer ran a series of huckstery real estate seminars and used the word "University" in his marketing much as McDonalds has long used "Burger University" in its franchise operation.

People settle lawsuits all of the time. I presume that there was the obligatory bit about not admitting wrongdoing.

BTW, I have twice reported groups of individuals to state authorities for committing actual fraud and have done so once for embezzlement. Each time that I did so, I had specific evidence that spelled out exactly what I was claiming that they had done. State investigators confirmed my accusations in each of the three occasions and took actions against the people involved including sending people to jail and destroying the organizations involved in the frauds.

To be honest, I find Al Gore's work for Apple and Dick Thornburg's work for nearly everybody far more concerning than Donald Trump's infomercials.
mapleleaf (1216 D)
09 Apr 17 UTC
lol....SOMEWHAT huckstery.....
gopher27 (1208 D)
09 Apr 17 UTC
How many real estate developers have you know personally in your life? One of my great uncles developed much of suburban Texas (he was the William Levitt of Texas). Another great uncle ran a specialty contracting business that worked on virtually every building over 30 stories tall built in the American Oil Patch between 1965 and 1995. My dad worked for a major real estate developer active across the American Sunbelt through the 1980s and 1990s. I interviewed William Levitt for my National History Day project the month before he died. Yes, by the standards of real estate developers, Trump is somewhat huckstery.

I remember meeting Melvin Lane Powers as a very young child. Look him up....his Wikipedia page does not even come close to doing him justice.
ScubaSteve (1066 D)
09 Apr 17 UTC
Melvin Powers seems horrible... based upon his Wikipedia page.
gopher27 (1208 D)
Tue 11 Apr UTC
BTW, one of my relatively close friends from high school won the National Reporting Pulitzer Prize today.
What is the difference between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton? Can somebody please enlighten me.
Is his name David Fahrenthold
gopher27 (1208 D)
Tue 18 Apr UTC
indeed, one and the same.

BTW, if you have ever seen the movie Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking your Juice in the Hood, David looked exactly like "the Man" when that movie came out and looks largely the same today.


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Anon (?? D)
09 Apr 17 UTC
KING OF GUNBOAT
gameID=30786 2 day phases 100pt bet WTA Anon gunboat
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Matticus13 (1241 D)
Sat 15 Apr UTC
Seeking replacement for Shift Right variant game
http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=30376#gamePanel

Looking for a replacement for Italy (me). The current position is pretty stable. I'm looking to eliminate all of my press games due to time constraints.
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Greetings Thread
Um....................... Hello? Is anyone there?
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The Ambassador (1678 D (B) (B))
08 Mar 17 UTC
Live video feed podcast?
Hi folks - Kaner and I are getting together this time next week for another boozy Dip chat.
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Captainmeme (1591 D Mod (B))
Tue 11 Apr UTC
The Original Diplomacy Variant
As many of you know, the Calhamer estate is being liquidated and the very first self-published Diplomacy board sold for just over $5000 last week. Well, something else interesting from the same sale - a bunch of prototype maps, these likely being from several years before the game was published.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/262922746919
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fasces349 (1052 D)
26 Dec 10 UTC
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Advertise live games here
Like in webdiplo, this thread will be used to help people find live games
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David E. Cohen (0 D)
29 Mar 17 UTC
Calhamer Estate Sale
See below.
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kaner406 (1368 D (B) (B))
03 Apr 17 UTC
Sitter needed!!
For 7 days, ongoing bourse game. 1 SC power, 3 day phases, no bourse orders needed, only a hotbod to look after the unit on the board. PM me or reply on this thread. Thanks!
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MerlijnvL (994 D)
31 Mar 17 UTC
Hallo
Hallo
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didigoose (1690 D)
13 Mar 17 UTC
Hof Points Question
I have 2 questions related to the Hof point calculation

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zurn (884 D)
28 Mar 17 UTC
Minor map issues
Is anybody able to make minor cosmetic map changes to the variants, for readability? There's two small things I've noticed:

* Imperial Diplomacy II: there's a connection between Morocco and W. Med, but the map really doesn't show it.
* First Crusade: The Sardinia supply centre in the large map is placed in an odd, almost invisible spot.
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