@brainbomb: I do not know why you and snowy roleblocked teacon, but it would make sense to try to use it against him. I assume your motive for fake claiming cop was to reveal the real cop while possibly getting DO mislynched in the process.

Ezio
Night-1 05:06
page 20 Bozo What do you think specifically of the wagon on Ghug?

bozo
Night-1 04:45
page 20 @Ezio: I townread teacon, DO, and brainbomb, and I have no read on Captainmeme, so I think it was a good wagon with the information that was available.

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On N1 I list meme as my #2 scumread behind demon overlord.
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Final post of N1:

snowy801
Night-1 00:00
page 20 it's bozo and brainbomb

This is lengthy but is essentially pretty important. Read this and tell me if this looks fake.




snowy801
Night-1 02:01
page 20 do you actually hate to be rude though

brainbomb
Night-1 01:59
page 20 Kind of. Its really not my most effective tool for winning followers. My humor is my best tool for conveying my ideas. I feel people are put off by mostly everything about me other than when im on point in my satire

snowy801
Night-1 01:53
page 20 mhm

brainbomb
Night-1 01:51
page 20 So do you wanna talk about my shortcomings as a human being some more or do you wanna talk about my reads

snowy801
Night-1 01:44
page 20 what I personally want to know is why you pushed for a ghug lynch after claiming you'd tie it to save him immediately prior

brainbomb
Night-1 01:41
page 20 Pushed for a ghug lynch?

No I actively made that lynch happen. I decided he should die.

brainbomb
Night-1 01:39
page 20 I got triggered by his absurdity and claiming he was eating lunch. His incessant moaning that I was scum. It just became tiresome and congestive to the game. I thought he had to be town even as I lynched him however. What im telling you is I lynched him because I was never going to be able to work with him on anything or gain his support.

I never scumread him at all. He had to go nonetheless

snowy801
Night-1 01:38
page 20 lol no you didn't

brainbomb
Night-1 01:37
page 20 There was no effort to lynch any of my actual scumreads and bozo didnt deserve to die for ghugs lousy ass

brainbomb
Night-1 01:36
page 20 Sure I did. I never once said he was scum. I was the key tie breaking vote

brainbomb
Night-1 01:35
page 20 My promise to tie it was to trigger new wagons. New ideas. Didnt work

snowy801
Night-1 01:12
page 20 oh I meant to respond to your first comment
I would say something about how bad that is but that would be hypocritical
but hey

brainbomb
Night-1 01:04
page 20
ghug (5) bozo teacon7 DemonOverlord brainbomb Captainmeme
​bozo (3) ghug snowy801 ubercacher16
No‑Lynch (1) Ezio
​Ezio (1) mouse

Strategy we should lynch someone who lynched ghug. 5 players out of 9 theres pretty favorable odds a scum was there if not both. Id like more details from meme and teacon but im definetely gonna try to lynch demon.

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I was blatant I planned to go for demon. I was blatant I was "scanning" her.

Where exactly does this look like a scripted scum talking to scum talk? Snowy was trying to implicate me as a suspect. If you know anything about how mafia works when you bus/if you bus its generally a bad idea to list actual reasons to lymch your buddy. Notice how he voted bozo day 1 but didnt try to drive voters on there?

My record at fake claims

M15 VT fake claimed as bomb. Mislynched
M16 VT fake claimed cop. Mislynched
M17 Scum, fake crumbed as watcher. Won
M18 Doctor.
M19 Jailor
M21 VT no fake claim.
M22 VT fake claimed doc. Lost. Got roleblocked
M23 Overeager Vig. Claimed. Mislynched
M25 VT fake claimed cop, mislynched
M30 Scum. Fake claimed doc. Mislynched

M27 fake claimed Developer. Poisoned by teacon N3. Town won. Demon hated me for fake claiming her role. But it baited poisoner.

@brainbomb: It makes sense for you and snowy to have some interaction in the forum, as lack of any interaction would eventually become suspicious. Also, snowy questioning you was mild bussing, about what I would expect with only two mafia. snowy did give reasons for his vote on me D1, but I think he was just as happy to see ghug lynched.

bozo
Day-1 03:56
page 12 @ghug: I voted for Ezio because his lurking is suspicious and there is no obvious alternative yet. Ezio's responses have not done much to alleviate my suspicion. I do not agree with you on brainbomb. If you have a real case against DO, I would like to hear it.

bozo
Day-1 03:49
page 12 I think there is a very real chance that Ezio or the Captain is mafia, but I would be interested in hearing their opinions.
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Why did you disagree with ghug on me? What was making you townread me back then?

It sounds like you were open to lymching ghug, meme, ezio, and DO as long as there was a real case. Three hours out from EOD those all became options. Why did the playbook open as the need for consolidation was looming?

¤what at the time did you think would constitute a real case on Demon?
¤knowimg now that ezio and meme are town do you feel like you cast a wider net than you should have?

It feels like you wouldve lynched just about anyone at this point.

Snowys case on bozo.

¤says bozo focuses on minutae instead of mindsets
¤says hes never wrong

During this time snowy spent more time driving votes onto ghug and talking about why teacon was scummy than he does about bozo. Why is snowy attacking people voting bozo if he wants bozo lynched

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g=1001&part=Day%201&user=snowy801

Its harder to prosecute a case on bozo than ezio or teacon. They just put themselves into scummy contradictions. Add to it I never really thought bozo was scum thos game. Im just not finding anything that looks that bad.

I find it hilarious he was my first vote of the game and I proceeded to staunchly defend him, protect him, and argue reasons why he wasnt scummy. Only to realize I basically enabled him to have toms of usable material on me.

brainbomb: At the time you cited, it was nearing the end of D1 and I was trying to determine the best lynch among those that were being considered. I thought you seemed to be trying to hunt scum, so I was townreading you based on the information available D1.

brainbomb - "Its harder to prosecute a case on bozo than ezio or teacon. They just put themselves into scummy contradictions. Add to it I never really thought bozo was scum thos game. Im just not finding anything that looks that bad."

This looks weird. Is that all you search for? It seems like you were just trying to get whoever lynched.

I was trying to lynch people who I believed had implicated themselves and I did not see anything as suspicious from bozo when compared to teacon nor ezio. Obviously I was wrong

I search for things that stand out to my sensibilities uber. I read things that are not anti-town as not standing out.

Ok.

brainbomb
Day-2 47:18
page 24 Regardless of what claim you believe. Snowy is now the only lynch. You never lyjch within cop claims. You lynch the claimaints scan if able for verification.

##Vote snowy801
##end

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bozo
Day-2 47:00
page 24 @brainbomb: Can I assume you are admitting your claim was fake?

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This response takes a logical leap that wasnt actually implied.
http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g=1001&part=p24

@brainbomb: Besides voting for snowy, which was a good indication, there were other things you said that implied your claim was fake.

Which is fine. I certainly lied and played poorly. And ive been on every mislynch this game. We both voted ghug. We both voted snowy. We both voted teacon. We both voted ezio.

Part of me wants you to win bozo.-because you played brilliantly. But I wanna give you the respect and complexity of as much of a debate as possible. By the end I want mouse or uber or both to vote whoever makes the best argument.

@Bozo on

day 1 you posted 43 times
Day 2 you posted 20 times
Day 3 you posted 11 times
Day 4 you posted 9 times

Is it fair to say your participation has dwindled significantly as the game progressed? And why?

One would think that after the teacon lynch you wouldve been much more invested in trying to right the ship if you were town

Teacom got lynched D3 you posted 9 times in the night and 9 on day 4.

Compared to my 103 posts combined.

So it seems that your argument is still almost completely based around activity, maybe Ezio was right?

Bozo, how do you explain that activity drop off? I would like to hear your answer.

N1 after ghug lynch bozo posts 5 times
¤says ghug was hard to read
¤thanks uber
¤tells ezio the scumteam did a great job of blending in day 1
¤says he townreads teacon, me, demon but cant read meme

N2 after the teacon lynch bozo posts twice.
¤makes cases on uber and mouse
¤speculates in great detail that snowy and mouse distanced each other heavily

N2 after "Snowy lynch" my bad

@uber: I think the activity in the game dropped off in general. Also, there was not much to discuss on D2 after we were locked in on snowy, and on D3 and D4 with fewer player and more clears, the amount of discussion dropped significantly.

Okay so why would you opt to go with the flow and do zilch to right the ship? Is that what I should have done? Say nothing. Make 4 or 5 posts and just not bother