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SlawDawg77 (1341 D)
Mon 11 May UTC
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Concede vs. Draw
Apologies if this question has been asked before, but I can't find a clear answer. In my current game, most everyone has voted to Concede as a 3-team alliance is clearly in position to win. However, my understanding is Concede only gives points to one player that doesn't vote concede. Now that everyone else has voted concede, could the 3 of us that haven't vote draw and split the pot 3-ways? Or is a draw between all teams left only and if want a 3-way draw we have to fight until the end?
Fake Al (1752 D)
Mon 11 May UTC
That's a really interesting question, and if it doesn't work out like you said, that would be a cool feature to implement.
SlawDawg77 (1341 D)
Mon 11 May UTC
So we really only have 2 options? Concede and pick 1 random part of alliance to be winner or Draw and split pot 9 ways despite clear victory by 3 of us?
drano019 (2431 D Mod)
Mon 11 May UTC
Hi SlawDawg -

Your understand of Concede is correct. It only works if everyone except one person votes Concede. At that time, that player is declared the winner.

Otherwise, your choices are:
1) Everyone votes draw and whoever is alive is part of the draw.
2) Continue the game
CCR (1762 D)
Mon 11 May UTC
Interesting indeed. I remember such situations in FTF games, the survivors that accepted losing conceded to a winning alliance.
KingOfSwords (1402 D)
Mon 11 May UTC
That's an advantage of FTF games, or of PBEM games with a human GM, that people can work out an unusual result like this.
Mercy (2068 D (B))
Mon 11 May UTC
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I would dislike that feature. Games should be played out until the end. A seemingly clear 3-way draw may suddenly change into a solo threat.
kevdog8 (2022 D)
Mon 11 May UTC
Agree with Mercy. This situation is unusual; usually it takes just a few turns to eliminate anyone who might want to concede anyway. And even when this does happen, 3-way draws are often unbalanced and someone goes for a solo. You should have only 3 options: concede a solo to someone, draw for everyone alive to share the points, or continue.
SlawDawg77 (1341 D)
Mon 11 May UTC
I hear you guys. Our 3-way alliance has gone to great pains to keep ourselves balances to prevent a solo. I currently have a very slight 2 SC lead over my allies. I'd be open to continuing to only 1, but I think the other players are burned out after we had one player sort of abandon game and purposefully drawing out each turn now. He refuses to ever hit ready. It's kind of killed the game. We most likely will just do a draw once he is dead after our current turn, but wanted to confirm options.
CCR (1762 D)
Tue 12 May UTC
In the ken lowe judge pbem, there was a specific setting for. The default was DIAS (draw includes all survivors). In game creation, it could be set no NoDias.

So it still can be a feature for implementation. We don't have to have 100% agreement. Think of ppsc... the same... you just don't play the games set the way you don't wanna play.
ezpickins (1819 D)
Tue 12 May UTC
You should finish the game. If you can get a solo, I'd say go for it, but since you can eliminate those other survivors and get to the 3-way and if that's your true end game do it. It obviously depends on the variant, but a 3 way draw means you couldn't beat two people. 3/7 is eh, 3/15 is better, and 3/50 is pretty good.

A draw including all survivors only makes sense to me. If power (d) still has a chance at influencing (b) and (c) to attack (a), then the game is still afoot.
BBQSauce123321 (2027 D)
Tue 12 May UTC
Hey, if you have a slight advantage, perhaps expand it and solo. That would certainly finish the game. Especially if some of the other 2 in the power alliance are tired, you can get the jump on them
Lukas Podolski (1483 D)
Tue 12 May UTC
Or they make start fighting each other, too.


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umbletheheep (1000 D)
Mon 11 May UTC
Nexus Finals Video Analysis
Gohornsgo and myself are doing video analysis of the Nexus Finals. Here's the first one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UrfqiGhwGE.

We'll be doing an episode usually after each turn with another dropping tonight.
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Variant Dev Thread: North America Minor Powers
Thread about a variant I am working on
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Text in variants
What are people using to make the text in variants.
Whenever I try making text and then importing it, it ends up being blurry.
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umbletheheep (1000 D)
08 May 20 UTC
Star Trek Diplomacy
So I came across this over at Diplomatic Corp which has run this variant: http://www.dipwiki.com/index.php?title=Star_Trek and the creator's page with all the files: http://mainecav.org/diplomacy/

Is this something that is this not available for fear of copyright infringement on vDip? I'm not well versed, but I know this is a deep history in fantasy zines in Diplomacy's history.
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Momentbruh (1000 D)
08 May 20 UTC
World Map Choose Your Country: BrUhMoMeNt
Anyone interested in a World Map, choose your country, no reliability, 2 missed turns, (renews every 5) extensions, and talking allowed? If so, go to here: https://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=43409
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DevTools
What does it mean by image must be indexed/palleted png
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Macca573 (1249 D)
07 May 20 UTC
Design bug on Mate Against Mate?
The way the map is drawn makes it look like false connections exist.
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Aladeen (1067 D)
04 May 20 UTC
Civil Disorder but can't replace player?
Sorry if this has been asked before, but I can't find it using the search.

I'm in a game with friends/co-workers and one guy quit the game. We waited the 48 hours for him to go into civil disorder, which he did, but the game isn't letting us replace him. Is it because the game is private? We have a replacement ready to go, but our former co-worker isn't answering his email and we aren't sure what we can do to not have to wait 24 hours each turn to get the game moving.
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Caustic (1097 D)
06 May 20 UTC
5G is the topic
Our current cell towers, phone/power lines, etc already give off radiation. 5g= 4g x100. What do you know?
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mcoirad (1000 D)
02 May 20 UTC
New Variant in development: Brazilian - Classic
My grandfather recently died and as I went through his things I found a prototype for a Diplomacy bootleg. He used to work in import/export in South America so maybe it was related to that. In his honor I am working to digitize the variant. Here is a preview image:

https://i.imgur.com/ENDewMs.png
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mcoirad (1000 D)
03 May 20 UTC
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New Variant in development: Brazilian - Classic
My grandfather recently died and as I went through his things I found a prototype for a Diplomacy bootleg. He used to work in import/export in South America so maybe it was related to that. In his honor I am working to digitize the variant. Here is a preview image:

https://i.imgur.com/ENDewMs.png
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alifeee (1234 D)
14 Mar 20 UTC
Variant development questions (Scottish_Clan_Wars)
Hi, I've looked at Spain in the classic map, and there are three territories: Spain, Spain (NC), and Spain (SC). The first has only land-links and the latter two have only sea/boat-links. I've recreated this in my map, but I don't think it's formatting the same as Spain in the classic map. How do I make a North/South coast divide?
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The Ambassador (2233 D (B) (B))
02 Sep 16 UTC
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New podcast for online Dip games
Hi everyone

Kaner and I have started a podcast about playing Diplomacy online....
269 replies
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riffraff7 (1000 D)
01 May 20 UTC
Variants
Can you use any of the variants here for a game on conspiracy application
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Caustic (1097 D)
02 May 20 UTC
Who's on
Is there 2 other ppl on that want to play live right now?
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Oli (977 D Mod (P))
15 Apr 20 UTC
Maybe we should switch to phpBB..?
As the our current forum has it's limitations (no subforums, no search) I'm thinking about switching to phpBB (like on webdip).
Are there any objections, things to keep in mind?
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KingOfSwords (1402 D)
24 Apr 20 UTC
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Forming Games: Number of Players Needed
Forming games used to include a status line that said something like "X players out of Y still needed". Why did this message go away? I thought it was a useful indication of how close a game was either to starting, or to being cancelled due to not enough players signing up.
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YoYoBoBo (1000 D)
21 Apr 20 UTC
Fill with Bots Option
How do you get this option to appear? I tried unrated no messaging but I'm not seeing it, is it just automatic?
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Drawing a Map
When I am drawing a map do I have to use paint.net
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umbletheheep (1000 D)
21 Apr 20 UTC
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Diplomacy Board Game Giveaway
The Briefing is giving away a free Diplomacy board game. Here's how to win it: https://www.diplomacybriefing.com/giveaway
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Fake Al (1752 D)
15 Mar 20 UTC
Tiglath-Pileser Development
Just to keep things organized, I'll keep my questions in my own thread, which are focused on my first try at creating a variant, one set in the Iron Age middle east.

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kaner406 (1709 D Mod (B) (B))
11 Mar 20 UTC
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A massive congrats for the first Divided States win!
gameID=34103
Congratulations Amby! For winning as New York! 2 years well spent ey?
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umbletheheep (1000 D)
17 Apr 20 UTC
Learn from Diplomacy Champions
One of the segments I run in The Briefing is "Champions Corner." Basically, this is a tournament winner describing their thought process. The 2020 ones we've done are in the comments. (Side note: If you aren't a subscriber, be sure to join up)
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DevTools
How do I make the coloring of the map correct? (Right now all the colors on the map I am working on are different)
5 replies
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x and y when making a new territory in DevTools
How do the x and y work?
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WOPWOP (1000 D)
16 Apr 20 UTC
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Sandboxes
Is there a way to create sandboxes similar to the system used on backstabbr.com here?

Thanks!
WOPWOP
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a_mercurial_git (949 D)
13 Apr 20 UTC
Little League vDip Game
In deliberate, though non-antagonistic, contrast to Amby's thread (and to get other people about thinking about making other threads for other bands), let's have a game for folks in the 500-1k vDip points range.

To keep things quick, let's grab the first seven folks and play a non-anon game of classic, with full press and 36-hour phases.
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Heer Alvaro (1000 D)
13 Apr 20 UTC
Want to create a new variant map - Middle East 21th Century - 5 players
Dear colleagues, I need your help. I have designed a variant map for five players set in the Middle East in the 21st century. info of this map:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xXOYxLLRRMZSYr3xGWxxToAt1R4mw8iZ
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CCR (1762 D)
14 Apr 20 UTC
Bug on Mongolian
Fleets in Adaman Sea are unable to convoy armies to Siam.

Players of "Make war, not love" please either pause, draw or cancel because this bug has affected my plans twice in this game.
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