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KalelChase (1344 D)
22 Aug 11 UTC
New Game -> Public Messaging FOG - WTA
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=3237

Join in... I'll be one of them.
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RoxArt (1732 D)
22 Aug 11 UTC
classic
join! :)
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=3232
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gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
21 Aug 11 UTC
It's not easy being Green
With my time as President of the New Russia over, I'm now playing green in every one of my games. I wonder which power I will be if 56 pointer (gameID=3220) makes.....Indonesia, Manchuria, India(?), Central Asia, South Africa, Catholica, Mexico, USA, Quebec or Canada? That's right, I've tricked you into reading an ad from one of my games.

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fasces349 (1007 D)
20 Aug 11 UTC
Greek Team Games
Back in late July there was a failed attempt of a Greek Team game, are we up for another try?
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Alcuin (1454 D)
21 Aug 11 UTC
Pausing
I've been home to visit my mother. She's dying. She has cancer. I requested pauses in all my games but didn't approach mods because I expect people are civilised enough to grant such pauses. I came back to find that in one game where I was doing excellently, I'd gone into civil disoreder and been taken over, even though I was only away three days. That's much more annoying than all the games where I found myself backstabbed in civil disorder. A curse on all you metagamers.
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AdamNTM (965 D)
21 Aug 11 UTC
Bug on the Modern Diplomacy II board?
Hello All, just in the midst of a game where a fleet in Israel supported a fleet from Sinai into Jordan; should this be possible? Just wondering, never played this variant before, and never been in Israel, so I can't be sure if there's some sort of "waterway" from Israel to Jordan that would allow it to support such a move...
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fasces349 (1007 D)
04 Jul 11 UTC
Error in Duo
http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=2658
Unit in Arkoon cannot move to Nab despite the border...
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Raro (1449 D)
20 Aug 11 UTC
I must confess... I despise Yoko Ono
I've been listening to Double Fantasy today and I suddenly got the impulse to declare publicly that I can't stand Yoko Ono. It is not without shame, I have the utmost respect for John. Does anyone else suffer from this conflict?
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ScubaSteve (1202 D)
21 Aug 11 UTC
quick live game?
Anyone interested? 1v1? 4 player? Let's play!
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MasterEddie38 (996 D)
17 Aug 11 UTC
interesting moves
http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=2612
anybody wanna tell me why france hasnt just finished germany and won this game already, not that im complaining the longer it goes the more centers Im getting, but still Im confused
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Jimbozig (1179 D)
19 Aug 11 UTC
guak was banned
and now all of my gunboat games have an unreadable message.

Aiyah
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fasces349 (1007 D)
22 May 11 UTC
Vdip Cup Standings
Once a week I will post an updated standings so people can see how they rank in the vdip cup.
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fasces349 (1007 D)
20 Jun 11 UTC
Sorry for it being late, I was rather busy with exams...
Group A
8 guaroz 87.5
8 gantz 68.75
8 RoxArt 56.25
4 canaduh 50
8 Hellenic Riot 37.5
6 Gobbledydook 33.33333333
6 fasces349 33.33333333
8 SacredDigits 25


Group B
8 langaidin 68.75
6 ezpickens 66.66666667
6 Devonian 66.66666667
8 myrmidon 62.5
8 President Eden 56.25
6 superflemgobuious 33.33333333
8 Jimbozig 31.25
10 gman314 25
RoxArt (1732 D)
20 Jun 11 UTC
8 D?
something has to be wrong as I had only 1 draw my points have to be dispair?
That's the amount of games finished, Rox. ;)
Also, I have to ask -- are we taking strictly top 8 combined from both groups, or top four from each? Because I'm in 5th in Group B but I'm tied with Group A's 3rd...
Guaroz (2030 D (B))
20 Jun 11 UTC
It is top 4 of each group. There's even a rule that says that if 2 players tie 4th place in a group then they'll play a 5-games-long tiebreaking serie.

BTW, Why should the 4th of group A be eliminated by you (5th of group B), when he had no chance to fight against you? Also, probably his average is lower than yours because the players of group A are averagely better than the players of group B. So, if ever, it should be group B to have only 3 players qualified... :-)
The truth is that you cannot compare the results of one group with the other. It makes no sense.
First, the "why should be be eliminated by you without playing" argument goes both ways. Why should I be eliminated by him without playing him?

And I would consider arguing that Group B is tougher, looking at these rankings. Group A has... you, Guaroz, and you're in a tier of your own. You have gantz and RoxArt doing well. But 5/8 are at 50 or below; 3/8 on our side. Ours is more top heavy. At the very least the two groups are even, I really don't see the argument that says A is better.

And sure it does... we split up for scheduling purposes because a 16-person round robin is ridiculously long and difficult to coordinate, but the results are definitely comparable.

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In any case I was only asking for the actual rule, not contesting it. The above is merely a response to the other criticisms and NOT an argument to change this rule.
Guaroz (2030 D (B))
20 Jun 11 UTC
Sure, Simon, I know and knew you were only asking. But, you know, I like to reason about these arguments. And I know you like to reply, that's why I started, LOL :-) Serously now, I apologize whether I was rude or offensive or anything. Not my intention, it was probably because my English is not that sophisticated. Sorry.

That said, let's go on, if you like:

1) Your "viceversa" attempt has no logic. You wouldn't be eliminated by him. You would be eliminated by the 4 who did better than you in your group. You met them.

2) The results of the 2 groups are comparable now less than ever, because a different number of games were played. As a result the sums of averages of the groups are not the same, like it should be (50% x 8 players = 400% each group), but it's: group A = 391% and group B = 410% (Try! Sum them!). So no surprise that some player of group B has a better average of his equal-ranked player of group A. There are more "percentage points" in group B now.
..That said, even if you'll make your analisys at the end of the round robin, when sums will be equal and mandatorily = 400, you can't make speculations like that. Yes, I wasn't serious when I told "it should be group B to have only 3 players qualified". I added a ":-)". The groups were made by time-zone criteria, so no clue they're balanced. Who could say that best 8 players are not ALL in Group A? Who could say vice-versa? You can't exclude all the 8 (or 7 or 6) best players are in the same group. Nobody can say whether they're balanced or not. Nobody can't say anything about it. That's why comparisons between the 2 groups make no sense. They could be heavily unbalanced.

You will can say something about it after the quartefinals, when there will be A-players against B-players. Then we'll see which group was the best. Unfortunately, too late.
RoxArt (1732 D)
20 Jun 11 UTC
THIS IS A STANDINGS THREAD! ;)
fasces349 (1007 D)
20 Jun 11 UTC
To answer the question it is top 4 players per group. No further discussion please.
Guaroz (2030 D (B))
20 Jun 11 UTC
Ok. PE I'd love to have your comments via PM. :-)
fasces349 (1007 D)
27 Jun 11 UTC
Group A
10 guaroz 80
8 canaduh 68.75
12 RoxArt 62.5
12 gantz 45.83333333
10 Hellenic Riot 45
8 Gobbledydook 31.25
8 fasces349 31.25
8 SacredDigits 25

Group B
10 Devonian 80
10 langaidin 65
8 President Eden 56.25
8 ezpickens 50
10 myrmidon 50
10 Jimbozig 35
6 superflemgobuious 33.33333333
10 gman314 25
Gobbledydook (1083 D)
28 Jun 11 UTC
Poor, poor me. 3 D below par.
Gotta catch up in the last 6 games...what is my next match?
RoxArt (1732 D)
28 Jun 11 UTC
canaduh please let me know when you're ready to play our game... guess you have other games to do first :)
RoxArt (1732 D)
28 Jun 11 UTC
guess gantz has to do a 4 pointer in his last game and then hope on a lot help from the others...
hellenic gob and fasces have pretty good possibilitie to get spot 4
canaduh has much to lose up there...
I guess guaroz and me are set... :)
I've got a shot at #1 and #4 to close the season out after superflemgobuious and I finish up. Should be a fun ride to the finish.
gantz (1859 D)
28 Jun 11 UTC
guaroz-gantz 4-0

http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=2560
http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=2559
fasces349 (1007 D)
28 Jun 11 UTC
Guaroz, Devonian and RoxArt have auto qualified, even if they loose the rest of their matches they will be through.
RoxArt (1732 D)
28 Jun 11 UTC
yep but I can get the 2nd place! :D
That's what I'm pushing for here. =P
fasces349 (1007 D)
28 Jun 11 UTC
@Pres: if you win the rest of your games and Dev looses the rest of his (which is a big if consider he has won 9 straight if you count his game with gman which isn't listed up there) then you would be just 3 D ahead of him.
I think its almost Guarenteed that Dev and Guaroz will be taking their groups.
I assume you've counted the games with gman. If so, I'm his only opponent left. If I win out then he loses the rest of his. Not as big an if as you might think. ;)
RoxArt (1732 D)
28 Jun 11 UTC
hei there is langaidin in your group to! ;)
fasces349 (1007 D)
28 Jun 11 UTC
lan has 2 more wins then you in exactly 2 more games...
also Superflembigious can catch Dev, since he still has 8 game remaining.

meanwhile the only person who can catch Guaroz is Canaduh, which for the same reason as Super, is mainly because of the lack of games he has played. However Canaduh has won 4 straight so its not entirely unlikely (its less likely that Guaroz looses the rest of his games then Can wins the rest of his)
guak (1262 D X)
29 Jun 11 UTC
against who do I play?
Gobbledydook (1083 D)
29 Jun 11 UTC
what is my next match? >.>
Gobbledydook (1083 D)
29 Jun 11 UTC
Oh never mind. It's fasces and hellenic left. fasces we should set up our matches; check your PM. Since you are the mod, you might as well do the country swapping as well ;)
Not at the rate Super's going now. ;P

And I'm just trying to get qualified, which basically means winning out.
Guaroz (2030 D (B))
29 Jun 11 UTC
@ Gobble: you miss Hellenic & fasces I believe.
Gobbledydook (1083 D)
29 Jun 11 UTC
Curse tt612 for losing the Guaroz match 0-4! I am sure, if I were playing, I would at least have split 1-3.
fasces349 (1007 D)
30 Jun 11 UTC
actually the tt612 involved 0 wins, both games were tied
Guaroz only has 1 loss, and that is to someone who doesn't even have a playoff spot (me)

Super is way to slow and thus is fired, @Guak: your playing Jimbozig

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tobi1 (1997 D Mod (S))
18 Aug 11 UTC
Impossible to take over Rajasthan
gameID=2830
It's impossible for me to choose Rajasthan, although the account is banned and the country is open.
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Tabanese (1303 D)
19 Aug 11 UTC
Server down or something?
A friend of mine can't seem to recive his validation email when registering (he attempted it three times with three different accounts) and his support email failed as well. Anyone any idea as to why?
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tricky (1005 D)
18 Aug 11 UTC
Question
Any idea how to access a global message in a game with no in game messaging and annonymous players?
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bbb111 (460 D)
19 Aug 11 UTC
italy vs russia vs england
anyone for live italy vs russia vs england . plz join = gameID=3200
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Catch23 (884 D)
09 Aug 11 UTC
Live Greek Game?
tittle says it all. any1 intrested?
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kaner406 (2088 D Mod (B))
15 Aug 11 UTC
WWIV - Naval vs Army.
There are not enough sea provinces... making stalemate lines easy to constuctr between continents. :(
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GOD (1860 D Mod (B))
18 Aug 11 UTC
Livegame
Anyone interested in a livegame right now here ?
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gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
09 Aug 11 UTC
I generally pride myself on my ethnocentrism
because Western Civilization is the only one that matters really. However, does anyone else notice the lack of a Conquests of Qin or an Ascendency or Decline of the Mughals variant?
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acmac10 (923 D)
17 Aug 11 UTC
Pure Game
Hey all, looking for a pure game with some players. Look inside for info:
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Rancher (1109 D)
18 Aug 11 UTC
New Gunboats, Join Up!
A couple of new no pressers, fun stuff
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butterhead (1272 D)
31 Jul 11 UTC
Butterheads' War for America: Team Edition
Everyone knows the concept by now... Team game, where you have a preset alliance that does not change for the duration of the game, and the game cannot end until there is a stalemate line or only one team remains... for this team game, I am looking at Fall of the American Empire. There are 3 layouts of teams I have thought of that we can decide which one we want
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The Czech (1921 D)
06 Aug 11 UTC
Live gunboat?
webdip is being moved to the new server. Any one up for a live gunboat/live fow gunboat?
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Rancher (1109 D)
04 Aug 11 UTC
Spaghetti Western
no frills, full press Italian renaissance warfare, we have a few, need more

http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=2984
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SacredDigits (978 D)
16 Aug 11 UTC
One point games
Hi, I'm at 4 D right now, which is enough to join a 1 point 2 player game, but I can neither make nor join one. Any advice?
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GOD (1860 D Mod (B))
16 Aug 11 UTC
JOINJOINJOIN !!!
http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=3061
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G-Man (2516 D)
10 Aug 11 UTC
Ultimate Fantasy World / Diplomacy Encouraged / 3-Day Moves
If you like a lot of diplomacy, the challenge of 12 players, a dynamic land - sea war, Standard rules, and are in for the long haul... join the Ultimate Fantasy: gameID=3110

1st in the Cloak & Dagger series
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butterhead (1272 D)
14 Aug 11 UTC
Pause please?!
http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=2839#gamePanel
everyone has agreed to pause for Russia(left yesterday, gone for I believe 2 weeks), except Turkey, who has not said a single word the entire game... can someone please pause this?
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Gobbledydook (1083 D)
03 Aug 11 UTC
Board-of-advisors variant?
We all have weaknesses. Some of us may be weaker in strategy, some weaker in tactics, some weaker in negotiation, some weaker in stabbing/not getting stabbed.
What about this: Let us start a standard game. Players may recruit as many advisors as they see fit, to advise them on all issues of the game.
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