I would rather a more legitimate stock market. As in a currency can only be sold if someone is willing to buy, thus the buyer and the seller have to agree on a price. That way there is a more appropriate stock market. On top of that the need for a $US is eliminated.

I shall join the B set list.

Granted that you have no problem with me joining...

Splendid example, kaner, thank you.
One more doubt: given your example, at the end of spring (retreats? or fall diplomacy phase?) the Russian Rouble is fix at 0.98. Now, if the next season the exchange is 50 units sold more that bought, what happens? it stays at 0.98 because less than 100 units were exchanged that season or it drops to 0.97 because the cumulative exchange is -300?

So for example, If player A was wishing to exchange Roubles for Marks. He would make a bid:
Selling 500 Roubles for 400 Marks.
Someone who possesses marks in game could then make an ask:
500 Roubles for 350 marks.
They would eventually negotiate to ~375.

At a given time a 3rd player may choose to intervene and undercut the buyer or the seller so he gets the trade instead.

This means that as a country starts doing less and less well, the prices will drop way more then the 5 cents in your game.

If Austria is about to be eliminated, it would take me 2 turns to sell off my crowns, and I would be able to retain most of my money from it. While in the stock market, the currency would drop dramatically to the extent that it would be near impossible to trade.

@Guaroz: As I understand the rules, the change of currency price only occurs when 100 units are exchanged (either bought or sold). So the price would stay at 0.98.

@fasces349: I thought we should give this set of rules a go first, and then perhaps make a vDip bourse that works in a fashion that you advocate at a latter date.

Updated list:
A:
Guaroz
gman314
Lukas Podolski
tobi1

B:
SacredDigits
butterhead
airborne
King Atom

Actually, even with the existing rules, as Austria slowly fell, his price would slowly fall as the traders would catch on. And remember, EACH player can sell up to 500 units each turn. With the 4 traders we have so far, that could result in up to $0.2 per turn. So, in the rush to sell, the price will drop reasonable quickly, although not as fast as in the method you're proposing.

I'll sign up for list B

@gman314 - you want in?

Updated list:
A:
Guaroz
gman314
Lukas Podolski
tobi1

B (2 more needed)
SacredDigits
butterhead
airborne
King Atom
fasces349

*slap head - you already are.

I was thinking Classic - Economic would be a suitable variant...

(re: Retreats/Builds)
I am happy for the bourse to be open during these seasons - but players orders will have to be made during the phase. Late orders won't be processed.

Ok, kaner, thanks again. I think I got the market.
Now the game.
I think it should be a serious game with players committed in fighting for something. So I hope it'll be a high stake game, I wouldn't like some player being uncommitted because he got little to win and basically nothing to lose, and he prefers to focus on some other game he's playing.
Further, item#8 says that Victory Points are calculated over the number of supply centres owned by each country at the end. So I'd like to have players fighting for their SCs til the end and this suggests PPSC. Thoughts?
How about the other creation parameters?
I also like to have some words in order to have a game that comes to an end. Possibly within 2012. So can a player ask for an infinite number of pauses? Is there a occurency in which players are allowed to Cancel (I hope no)? How do we handle NMRs & CDs etc...


(re: re: Retreats/Builds) Well, I guess that in the exact moment you give the new prices, the next season has started and the old one is over. So what would be the best moment?

Will the diplomacy games be anon? I think non-anon would make the bourse more interesting.

Non-anon would allow the Traders to discuss with the players which would definitely make things interesting.

I'll play as a member of Group A. I never liked the Economic map anyways : )

Put me in with A too! Not because I am stalking drano, but because I think Butter, KA and I all in one group is a bit much! :D

About Guaroz' desire for it to be high stakes:

I would personally vouch for all five people currently in Group B (except that SacredDigits rascal) as being a high quality player who will play a good game no matter the bet size. But I'm also willing to toss a large bet at it regardless, because I can roll a little deep these days.

If we do Economic, might I suggest upping the win condition to the half +1? the 24 center win condition is kinda sucky imho.

if we are playing economic, I am pulling out, its my second least fav classic variant (7 islands)

regarding Guaroz' desire for high stakes: I'm willing to go of a bet anywhere up to 45 .

I need a low pot. I am busy. 10 and under if you would.

I was only putting it out there. The variant can be any of the classic famijy of variants (7 players though). Up to group B to decide

@Diplomat- you aren't playing the game smart one? you are in the stock market group, not the playing group.
@kaner/other players: I'm down for any of the classic versions, so long as the win condition is the half +1

Good to have more people on board.

@Diplomat33: you don't need to buy in with points as you are in group A (the bourse speculators)

@Everyone - we could make the game simply Classic Diplomacy - that way we avoid arguments re: what variant to play etc... Also I was thinking setting the game up should be that it would be PPSC, and about a 40 buy in, and non-anon.

Regarding NMRs & CDs the players (B-Group) we have so far a imho quite a reliable bunch so far. But I will be willing for the sake of the game to use my moderator status to do the following:
1. Force a pause for a new player to be found if nescessary
2. Post in-game, updates on what currency is trading at what value.
In addition (being the GM for bourse) I will also:
3. Recieve players' seasonal orders and adjudicate the results
4. Post updates as to the currency being traded at what value in this thread every season, and the current net-worth of each player in group A
5. Send PMs to each player regarding their current stock of currencies that they hold after each adjudication.

Updated list:
A:
Guaroz
gman314
Lukas Podolski
tobi1
drano019
Diplomat33

B (2 more needed)
SacredDigits
butterhead
airborne
King Atom
fasces349

I would join either group. But if I am in group B, the bet would need to be 2, seeing as to how I only have 4 diplomacy points

Let's put you into group A, as we are going to be going for about a 40 buy in

Updated list:
A:
Guaroz
gman314
Lukas Podolski
tobi1
drano019
Diplomat33
hiporox

B (2 more needed)
SacredDigits
butterhead
airborne
King Atom
fasces349

2 more players needed who are willing to play a Classic match + there is still time for new players who wish to sign up to play bourse.

Sheesh 40 point buy in I'm not quite sure if I can afford that. Better check my vdip points checking account

The rules you posted say that you can sign up to play Bourse at any time.