Yea j read that. But if they're so confident in their tools why not let me back since there's no point to cheating and I've said that. Besides, wanna talk to my old friends there on the forum cuz I'm getting married another from now. I just live a damn lonely life..... *sigh* I miss the forum, I could live without games since I can play games on here anyways. I like nigeebaby's thought. And now that I've had a solid job I don't mind smackin down 50 bucks to Kestas to just be a forum participant.

well yeah, if they agree on letting him come back for games, you could make a case just to be allowed back for the forum. Then again i have no ideas what the mods reasoning is and i wasnt really paying attention to your whole banning thing as i was relatively new while it happened.

So was I lol

Maybe someone else on the main webdip might be able to check this out. :)

huh what happened ...

I got you, Sandgoose...Check out my latest thread...

Lol ka you're too much :P

Thanks for the mention @brian hickey.... Whoever you are lol. While your points do carry weight it's one thing to play the game, but other sites a. Suck and b. don't have nearly the quality of play

It's me :)

I do understand your point, as my experience on playdiplomacy was abysmal. I also think that the standards that webDip tries to adhere to are a major contributing factor to its overall quality. Ultimately, I'm glad that I don't have to make decisions like the one being discussed. It seems highly likely that if cases are considered for reinstatement there will be some inherent arbitrariness and unfairness to some that get denied. In your case, I certainly don't know enough to have an opinion, though it's clear that you are persistent and have been consistently trying to earn another chance, and you have some support from webDip members who continue to plead your case.

I was joking, obviously, about my multi-accounts, but 3-2 is an accurate read on my view of the situation. I think there are fair points on both sides of the issue. I'm glad that the community and admin care enough about the quality of the site and the wishes of membership to hold such discussions, rather than be completely rigid. Whatever the outcome, it won't change my enjoyment of the site and if Agent K - or yourself - is reinstated, it's a blank slate as far as I'm concerned. I will let my own direct experience inform my opinions from there.

"No, making a new account account after being banned without permission would automatically disqualify someone from this type of reinstatement, ruling sandgoose out about 12 times over"

I'm fairly certain Jmo's post says you're not going to be allowed back...

Thanks cap! But jmo and I have a love hate relationship.... More hate than love since...well, he's got his one close minded narrow opinion to all the accounts made, last 4 being created one at a time to get back onto webdip with a clean slate, notice how I didn't make multiples to play in games together etc

From my understanding of the whole mess you were caught cheating and allowed back, then caught cheating again and allowed back, and then caught cheating again... The impression you give is of a chap who enjoys the challenge of getting one past the mods somewhat more than the game itself, which is a tad off putting.

Whilst it seems clear enough that you can play a clean and good game when you want to, and I dare say do it here on a permanent basis, I'm not convinced you'd be able to resist trying to outsmart the WebDip system if you got back in.

Besides, there's nothing to stop you chatting to Nigeebaby outside of the game. Google him... he is all over the bloody place. I'm sure the other people you get on well with are easy enough to get in touch with.

@Goose- don't get your hopes up. lol

You octomom, I didn't cheat with sand goose T____T but I was banned because of games I was in with my brother... Which... Well sucks since he even said to the mods about it all

So the Webdip mods looked at your history of games with your brother, and concluded that you were working with him in an unfair way, and dished out some kind of warning? After which the blatently obvious thing to do would be to either avoid playing with your brother like the plague or to make it perfectly clear to everyone else in a game you happen to start with your brother that he happens to be playing it too?

It's not the original incident that confuses me. I could easily understand someone either working with a brother or friend and not realising it was a shitty thing to do. I could understand someone being in a game with a friend and just not knowing it. But it's the getting caught and warned off, and then doing it again and getting caught... and then doing it again... The hell was that all about?

Sandgoose - if you look at the steps I outlined, there are several reasons why you won't be let back. For one, you've tried to sneak back on, which is unacceptable. But more importantly, read Agent K's response and compare it to what you sent us. Agent K placed the blame squarely upon himself and repented. Even with him doing all the right things, he doesn't have all the mods convinced. Its either 3-2 or 4-1 right now. Your score is 1-4 I believe. And after that you'd have to do a trial by the community as well.

No matter what, SG, it's not gonna happen in 2013 for you.

^^Even now you won't admit what you did was wrong, so there's no hope really.

People really crave being on this site.

Maybe the mods should publish the case so you can all read everything yet again. I didn't need to cheat with my account. I never even knew who my brother was

For the record, sand goose was NEVER a fuckig multi

"No matter what, SG, it's not gonna happen in 2013 for you."

let me clarify that as never, not just 2013.

What the fuck? You idiots bring this argument over here? Keep it on WebDiplomacy where it belongs!

Oh webdip is down so they are coming over here to stir things up again. 2WL did this last week.

SG has been a really good member of vdip so there's no need to resurrect this thread just to piss on him.

JMO resurrected it. I just asked (rather rudely as that *was* called for in JMO's case) that it stay over there.

YCHTT - we cross-posted. I was replying to jmo. Apologies if it appeared otherwise.

No problem, Mapu.

"Oh webdip is down so they are coming over here to stir things up again. 2WL did this last week."
I was really made about the timing of the site going down. I had spent 2 hours making a really long post, hit send and it told me the site was down.

Now I'm going to have to retype the bloody thing. Hopefully it wont take as long a second time.

I came over to check out the forum here because webdip is currently down and find an entire thread based on post I made on webdip...but I'm not allowed to answer the question it asks?

@fasces, I feel you there, I'd spent the last hour entering 39 orders for a world game I'm sitting and lost them all