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gman314 (1016 D)
12 Mar 11 UTC
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Winning
Oli won.
On Imperial Civilization's off-topic thread (link inside), there was a brief stint of Second to Last Person to Post Wins. Now that the thread is closed, Oli won.
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Flame (1127 D)
Sun 03 PM UTC
Final map test
Please enter for final 1908 variant map test!
https://webdiplomacy.ru/board.php?gameID=12065

Game is unrated. Just gunboat mode for a quick test!
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David Hood (976 D)
Fri 21 Jan UTC
January 2022 Deadline News from DBN
Newest Deadline News is out - including interviews with Siobhan Nolen and Eber Condrell, a throwdown debate about which site is best between partisans of WebDip, PlayDip and Conspiracy, and headlines from around the world of Diplomacy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT6OdvvJFyg&t=2917s
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butterhead (1146 D)
21 May 12 UTC
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Advertise your NON-live games here!
In an effort to compromise the pro-ads versus anti-ads for games: Post here for your non-live games to cut down on the number of ads but still advertise games. Post game link, WTA or PPSC, and the bet. Note: this doesn't count for special rules games.
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Count of Notwin (1198 D)
Mon 17 Jan UTC
On the subject of inverted time continuum simulation in Diplomacy
That said, the arguments in favour of this idea are the followings;
Predisposition of the game and its written orders to manipulate in-game moves history,
Presence of a game master that can keep orders written for the future secret,
Sheer coolness of doing such a thing
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epstein (1031 D)
14 Nov 21 UTC
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Advertise Your Live Games Here!
I am providing this space to the community, free of charge, in case you would like to advertise an upcoming live game!

Or an older live game!
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Relax™ (968 D)
28 Dec 21 UTC
Xbox live
anyone on xbox?
i got a 2 month subscription reward from discord. anyone want it?
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Zebulon Zirbou (929 D)
31 Dec 21 UTC
Assemblée Générale 2022 de l’AFJD
Cher joueur de Diplomacy,
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The Ambassador (1763 D (B))
02 Sep 16 UTC
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New podcast for online Dip games
Hi everyone

Kaner and I have started a podcast about playing Diplomacy online....
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Requirements to moderate game?
Is it 25 games and a minimum RR of 97? Thanks!
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gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
12 Dec 21 UTC
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A comment on common courtesy
Stuff happens in life and people occasionally need help from Mods to exit games without destroying the games for other players. Players who need Mods to remove them and delay games should provide a list of all of their games to the Mods. This is common courtesy.
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David Hood (976 D)
11 Dec 21 UTC
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December 2021 Deadline News is out!
Featuring interviews, news headlines, and a panel discussion about balance of power considerations in Diplomacy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l93XUc4Odg
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User tag
Hey y'all, I made this account a while ago, and, am no longer vibing with my choice of name. Is there a way to change it without deleting this one and making a new account?
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chy (1891 D)
08 Dec 21 UTC
Rule confirmation
Will the game go to X-way draw if X players vote draw and all other players vote concede, where X is a positive integer greater than 1?
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Anon (?? D)
06 Dec 21 UTC
Gunboat support? Sticky Keys is filled with cheaters?
https://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=50882

In this game Britain has supported Russia on Autumn 1941 and convoyed France the turn before. This is a No Messaging game. Are they teaming?
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Twilight Struggle & Imperial Board Game
I'm interested in one/both of these board games. I'm very curious to hear opinions about these from DIP players.
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User tag
Hey y'all, I made this account a while ago, and, am no longer vibing with my choice of name. Is there a way to change it without deleting this one and making a new account?
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Jetam (825 D)
03 Dec 21 UTC
Developing a new map
How to digitalize my own diplomacy map? It works on paper and I would like to share it with Y'all
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CrimiClown (1111 D)
02 Dec 21 UTC
Cannot post to modforum
Has anyone had this issue? I cannot post on the modforum to unpause some games for us.
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AJManso4 (1733 D)
15 Nov 21 UTC
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Error message when trying to open my games
Error triggered: assert(): Calling assert() with a string argument is deprecated.


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David E. Cohen (1000 D)
28 Nov 21 UTC
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A Sad Anniversary Today.
One full year.

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David E. Cohen (1000 D)
28 Nov 21 UTC
A Sad Anniversary Today.
One full year.

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gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
14 Nov 21 UTC
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Question for Alternative History nerds
In January of 1920, when Kolchak resigned in favor of Semyonov, a Japanese puppet, what would have happened if the Japanese had gotten Semyonov's Buryat puppet state to roll up the Trans-Siberian Railroad as they withdrew from Omsk?
gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
14 Nov 21 UTC
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I presume that pulling up the rails and ties on say 100 kilometers of the railroad would have trapped the Bolsheviks in Europe for a decade. I do not see Soviet Russia being able to manufacture, transport and assemble a 100 kilometers of new railroad infrastructure in the middle of the Russian Civil War. This would have theoretically allowed the Japanese to flood Eastern Siberia with colonial and military infrastructure on par with what they later did in Manchuria. With a decade to prepare and railroad infrastructure on their end, I suspect that they could have held on to at least everything East of Baikal. The JIA's northern strategy would have been a fact on the ground. They would have likely still seized Manchuria, but might not have ever felt pressed to invade China or look covetously towards Southeast Asia.

Any thoughts?
The Ambassador (1763 D (B))
17 Nov 21 UTC
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Plausible. But pretty niche alt history.
gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
17 Nov 21 UTC
It would likely mean no US entry into World War II, no Communist takeover of China and no effective insurgency movements in European colonies in Southeast Asia. Japan may well have never left the League of Nation, broken with the British or formed an alliance with Germany. That means that there would not have been a Soviet spy master in Tokyo getting information about German plans and activities from Nazi briefings of the Japanese.
gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
17 Nov 21 UTC
Plus, the entire economic development of Australia in the second half of the 20th Century would be massively changed.
Frozen Dog (1447 D)
18 Nov 21 UTC
I think what you're suggesting would have made a land confrontation between the (still likely victorious) Soviet Union and Japan happen earlier and result in Soviet victory eventually. A bloody land war in Siberia doesn't sound like a particularly amazing prospect for the Empire of Japan.
Frozen Dog (1447 D)
18 Nov 21 UTC
Totally agree that it would entirely change the potential shape of the second world war.
gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
18 Nov 21 UTC
The Japanese Empire defeated a much stronger Russian Empire. I am not at all certain that the Red Army could have easily defeated the Japanese Imperial Army in Siberia if the Soviet Union had to build the transportation infrastructure to supply a transcontinental campaign after the Japanese had a decade or more to prepare. The Green Uprisings would have likely pushed Siberian peasants into a Japanese puppet Buryat kingdom under Semyonov. Not to mention that stealing peasant grain and livestock in southern Siberia was relatively important in avoid mass starvation in the cities of European Russia during the early 1920s. With fewer productive agrarians to steal from the urban Bolshevik regime would have had to squeeze even harder west of the Urals, which presumably would have made the Green Uprisings even worse.
I think we can observe that:
i) the fact that something is militarily possible does not make it politically possible.

For example, the US had the strength and resources to overthrow the Soviet regime in the Russian Civil War. I mean. A landing in St. Petersburg was not so infeasible. Clearly American politics was not ready to make such a commitment even if it'd pay off in the long run.

In Japan there was a close competition between Navalists and the Army fundamentally similar to that in Great Britain since 700 with the difference that the British parliament owned a military while it was the Japanese military to own the parliament, to paraphrase Mirabeau.

I don't see how the UK or the US could have recognized the Japanese annexation of parts of Siberia. On the other hand, it doesn't seem that Japan could withstand international pressure to do so.

ii) It's true that an important element of Japanese expansionism was a self-perception of weakness and lack of some fundamental resources. But oil was discovered just in Western Siberia in the sixties.

On the other hand, the ambiguous question: the lack of resources was an incentive for a risky and aggressive foreign policy, but are we sure that Japan would have ceased to be a revisionist power had it felt less economically insecure?
I sincerely doubt. Look at a juicy target like Dutch Indonesia. It was the Western power that held Japan back, not some special internal constraint.
A war in the Pacific has probably been inevitable.
gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
19 Nov 21 UTC
The Americans were in Siberia with the Japanese at the time. The root issue with my alternative proposal is that Semyonov had spent the Russian Civil War extracting rents on railroad traffic and so would not have ever thought to rip up the railroad on the retreat from Omsk. He was just a too much of a scoundrel to do strategically wise things.

Keeping the Bolsheviks out of Siberia would have been enough to get the Brits and Americans to close their eyes to a a Buryat puppet state under the Japanese thumb. Much as Manchuria ultimately did keep the Japanese busy, my proposition is that Siberia would have absorbed much of Japan's expansionist energy.
Like to suggest something for this thread. Gopher's alt history scenario has been running for about a week. How about we get some more alt history suggestions, +1 what you think we should explore and then we spend a week roughly. Might fill in the time while the server gets fixed. Or maybe its just another pointless idea.
gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
23 Nov 21 UTC
What if...

The US responds to the rise of Totalitarianism in the early 1920s by drafting, passing and ratifying the 22nd Amendment to the US Constitution 25 years early after having just ratified the 17th and 18th Amendments. Thus FDR cannot seek a third term as President. I would presume that "Cactus Jack" Gardner would then become President and be the man who won World War II and confronted Hitler and Tojo. Gardner, who was willing to try the improvisation of the First New Deal in desperation at the crises of the Great Depression, was an unequivocal opponent of the Second New Deal while helping to organize opposition to the attempts at Court Packing. FDR would have left office with the US still mired in the Great Depression and may well be remembered as a popular and well-meaning failure.

How would American Domestic politics have been altered by a very different man being the hero of anti-fascism and the man who ended the Depression? Many of the men who turned out to be Communist spies would likely have been purged out of a Gardner Administration fairly quickly for purely political reasons thus resulting in no Hiss-Chambers Controversy, no Richard Nixon and no Joe McCarthy. Eisenhower's entry into politics would have unquestionably been different, even if just as a function of the electoral calendar.

How would the Cold War have unfolded with a President more vigorous than FDR and more experienced than Truman at the helm during the key moments when Stalin was seizing various advantages? At least part of the Marshall Plan was about shipping abundant American food stuffs to Europe for the benefit of voters in swing states amid the dislocations of de-mobilizations, so the saving of Europe from post-war starvation would have still happened. Gardner's advisors would have been more Jesse Jones and less Henry Wallace.

Additionally, Gardner spoke with JFK on the phone the morning that he was assassinated. Gardner lived seemingly forever and would have hovered over American politics as a towering hero for 20 years in a manner that no popular former American President has during the 20th Century. Teddy Roosevelt cast a significant shadow but he still died in 1920, only 11 years after he left office and he was more of an outsider than Gardner would have been. Men like Truman, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Bush and Clinton did not exist post-White House as national heros. And only Johnson and possibly Nixon were as firmly embedded in the machinery of national politics prior to becoming President.


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epstein (1031 D)
14 Nov 21 UTC
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Advertise Your Used Car Here!
Want to sell a used car? I didn't see a thread dedicated to that so I thought that I'd set one up. Kind of helpful, aren't I?
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David Hood (976 D)
12 Nov 21 UTC
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November 2021 Deadline News is out!
This latest edition on the Diplomacy Broadcast Network includes tournament news, other headlines, and a panel discussion about the use of a Top Board format in a Diplomacy event:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9p5NV8UHlU
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Malarky (1000 D)
03 Oct 21 UTC
A new Dipzine?
I posted this on webDip (and elsewhere) but then thought I should probably post here, too.
I'm looking to launch a new Dipzine called "Notes on a Napkin."
If you've anything you want to contribute to issue #1 drop me a line at diplomaticonpublishing@gmail.com. Go on - give it a go!
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epstein (1031 D)
02 Nov 21 UTC
How do I create a game here where I can test the game engine?
I want to play some solo games, or else make a few games that will start even if they are not full. How can I do this? Sorry I'm new.
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ubercacher16 (1773 D)
15 Oct 21 UTC
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Nexus Season Seven
The registrations for Nexus Season Seven have opened on Discord. Represent vDiplomacy in the extended deadline hobby's marquis event! PM me for more information or an invite to the discord and more information.
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David Hood (976 D)
23 Oct 21 UTC
Oct 2021 edition of Deadline News from the Diplomacy Broadcast Network
Has been released on YouTube. Panel discussion about cliques, interview with Oliver Lugg about The Game of Knife, and Nexus News - along with headlines from around the world of Diplomacy. For the next episode, I'd love some variant news from anyone here at VDip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riDxzKSR8T4&t=9s
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kaner406 (1552 D Mod (B))
08 Sep 18 UTC
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Variant Development Thread
This thread is made for the express purpose of cutting down of multiple threads that deal with new variants, ideas, concepts etc...
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