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gman314 (1016 D)
12 Mar 11 UTC
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Winning
Oli won.
On Imperial Civilization's off-topic thread (link inside), there was a brief stint of Second to Last Person to Post Wins. Now that the thread is closed, Oli won.
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Beefstu (1007 D)
Thu 06 PM UTC
Can't join the DSA game?
Hey all, I'm trying to join the DSA game that's nearly full but I'm unable to. I meet all requirements but the join button isn't showing, any ideas?
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Chris McEwan (646 D)
Thu 11 PM UTC
Design of Games
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How easy is it to design a game based upon a Town, I live in the NE of England and a few of us have been playing online during the lockdown. Any help appreciated.
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drano019 (2561 D Mod)
17 Aug 20 UTC
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Europa Renovatio - Team Game Interest
See below.
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GOD (1640 D Mod (B))
Tue 16 Feb UTC
Live messaging Diplomacy
Hello everyone, I would like to play a standard game of diplomacy, but exchange social network accounts of one network all players are in (preferentially Signal, but fb does the job as well) in order to be able to have Live communication and if wished, even calls. Could make things more immersive. 1 ½ days per phase. Anyone interested?
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DaveSpermbank (861 D)
Mon 22 Feb UTC
Eurasia Renovatio?
Everyone knows and loves Europa Renovatio by Technostar. But I feel his work is not finished.
Mercy (2180 D (B))
Mon 22 Feb UTC
Interesting.
DaveSpermbank (861 D)
Mon 22 Feb UTC
Mercy i had more to say
DaveSpermbank (861 D)
Mon 22 Feb UTC
I think a Eurasia Renovatio or Afro-Eurasia Renovatio is possible. Of course it would be in Technostar's original style, or as close as possible. and of course it would use the map and colors of the starting map of EU4
CYFI (1620 D)
Mon 22 Feb UTC
I love the idea! I personally have wondered about a global version. Where europe is ER, north America is DSA. Asia, SA, Africa (and islands) all need to be filled out though. One downside is it would take 100+ people to play
DaveSpermbank (861 D)
Mon 22 Feb UTC
hmm interesting concept

I was thinking about making an actual eurasia renovatio map to tack onto europe.

korea, timurids, ming dynasty entering the game. maybe make it 48 or 50 players for eurasia?
drano019 (2561 D Mod)
Mon 22 Feb UTC
One issue is you'd have to have enough people in the "asia" part of Eurasia to make it similar to the ER map, or you'd have to remove people from the ER map. Otherwise yo'ud have a very crowded Europe and a very sparsely populated Asia that leads to major imbalance. And if you add too many people, you get a map that is very hard to get played.
Lei Saarlainen (826 D)
Mon 22 Feb UTC
i am working on an ASIA renovatio project
with 36 player upon an asian map
LovelyPinkEgg (1428 D)
Mon 22 Feb UTC
I share your thoughts Dave. But as drano pointed, it has a lot of downsides. When I tought about this, my idea was to use the CK3 map, but I found it too hard to balance. I lean more towards a possible Transposia map which incorporates Mediterranean Sea, Japan and much more into North America. The amount of historical accuracy would drop, but on the other hand a lot of interesting and unusual connections could be revealed.
JohnyD (1773 D)
Mon 22 Feb UTC
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Europa Renovatio is an amazing piece of work, as are quite a few of the variant on this site. I would love to test a variant with a 100 players. It would be a total mess!
DaveSpermbank (861 D)
Mon 22 Feb UTC
drano i don't think that will be a problem. it will be balanced. the 36 in ER plus some more. 45-60 total.

kazan
nogai
uzbek
four oirat
timurids
eastern chagatai
mahra

korea
ming
ashikaga
derge

bengal
bahmanis
vijayanagara
jaunpaur
delhi

that is 16.

Lei Saarlanien how far along are you?
DaveSpermbank (861 D)
Mon 22 Feb UTC
I think 36+18=54 would be the perfect number. 1.5 times the size of ER, and the same as adding half. a fun addition.
drano019 (2561 D Mod)
Tue 23 Feb UTC
I mean, isn't Asia like 4x the size of Europe? Having 4x the size and 1/2 the powers means you're going to have to massively simplify the Asian map so that they can realistically interact with the Europeans.

Just look at the detail of the territories in the ER map. With that type of detail, the Chinese powers would never ever have any chance to interact with someone in the west.

So you'd end up having to have massive provinces to facilitate interaction between E and W, and with massive provinces come simple stalemates.
drano019 (2561 D Mod)
Tue 23 Feb UTC
The thing you don't want to do is have a map where it's basically two separate games because of the distance between powers.

And if you want any level of detail in Asia, you'll end up with that problem most likely.
DaveSpermbank (861 D)
Tue 23 Feb UTC
it would be larger territories sure. but remember that the original ER has some spillover into siberia and middle east.
drano019 (2561 D Mod)
Tue 02 AM UTC
I feel like you're minimizing the difference in size though. Again, Asia is roughly 4x the size of Europe. And with 1/2 the powers you'd have to have average territories about 8x bigger in order to have the same level of interaction as in the ER map. Which will inevitably lead to easy stalemate lines with big territories.

Also remember Asia doesn't have a large sea running through the middle of it like the Mediterranean. The Mediterranean really facilitates a lot of interaction between approximately half of the map. That's missing in Asia, with the oceans firmly on the outside, meaning no easy transit with sea lanes to cut across the map.

I'm not saying this can't be done, but having 1/2 the powers on 4x (approx) the size map doesn't seem super smart. If anything I'd recommend cutting some ER powers out, adding more to Asia, and at least trying to get a 1-1 power balance between the east and west.
Lei Saarlainen (826 D)
Tue 06 AM UTC
in the middle of asia is easy to use desert like territories facilite interaction
desert style territorie are not sea lane but can permit lot interaction
and indian ocean & pacific will work as another med
but problem is elsewhere europe didnot get a leviathan like china and i do not believe it is possible to get something appealing with one united china
and 1444 isnta period of scattered china
DaveSpermbank (861 D)
Tue 03 PM UTC
yeah there is the desert in north and west china. and the indian ocean facilitates a lot of movement similar to the med.
DaveSpermbank (861 D)
Tue 03 PM UTC
alrighty, the territories will be quite bigger on the asian side. but I don't have to include all of siberia
erikip107 (2089 D)
Tue 05 PM UTC
While it might not be historically accurate, we could remedy the problem of very literal interaction between asian and European players by having one player control two powers, kind of like in the Colonial 1885 map. I personally love that map for its splitting of powers, it has some cool things where you can be allied with someone in Europe and not in another part of the world...

It would keep the player number to 36, so games wouldn't take literally forever to fill up, and if Africa or the Americas are added eventually in later variants, they could be added in a similar fashion so each "power" consists of a European power, an Asian power, an African power, and an American power?
DaveSpermbank (861 D)
Tue 07 PM UTC
and nah it would definitely be fine if ming dynasty never interacted with burgundy. but timurids could interact with qq, the turkic tribes could interact with muscovy and gh, and mams and portugal have an easy way into asia too.
DaveSpermbank (861 D)
Tue 07 PM UTC
but interesting idea
erikip107 (2089 D)
Tue 09 PM UTC
It would also be interesting if Africa was added; people would not be able to go south by Morocco and instantly pop up in Egypt!
I like the idea, the big variants always have the most interesting games. I believe it could definitely be balanced out, especially if there was some playtesting.

However, technostar hasn't played a game on vdip since mid-2020, and I haven't seen him around on the diplomacy discord anytime recently either. So such a project would probably have to be just an imitation of his style.
kaner406 (1784 D Mod (B) (B))
Tue 11 PM UTC
Rivers could be expanded in size (stylistically) so as to facilitate "inland" waterways/seas...

Deserts could also act like sea-lane OZs - only without the convoy ability. The Himalayas would be interesting to map without it simply becoming impassable - you could use "mountain-ranges" to prevent certain territories connecting to others.

Trade winds in the Indian Ocean could be mapped in an interesting way - kind of an extended & long sea-lane - to connect strategic regions from the Persian Gulf all the way across to Indonesia.

You could even grab some of the code from Zeus5 to create country only/specific supply centres (yurts) to simulate the nomadic nature of the powers in that region (ie. they only act as supply centres for steppe tribes - but don't act as SCs for more centralised countries.

Various strategies "passes" could be added to shrink certain regions on the Asian map as well - making some territories closer to other by virtue of having "silk-road" connections as well (basically skipping geographically large areas of Asia - in a similar way to Youngstown's treatment of the ocean regions)

Balkanising Asia in ways like this could create quite a bit of strategic depth, without the issue of not having an inland sea like Europe does.
Lei Saarlainen (826 D)
Wed 08 AM UTC
@spermbank
i just look at your sixteen
this not include south east asia or africa and use united china
for me that not work
drano019 (2561 D Mod)
Wed 12 PM UTC
Kaner -

I LOVE the ideas, the major problem I'd see is that if we have to start adding in a handful of pretty major rule changes just to make it work, it becomes complicated, and skews towards heavily favoring those of us who are Dip Nerds and memorize and exploit all the rules. :P

We see a similar phenomenon in the PBEM games if NWO where the "nuke cycle" is exploited by experts who dominate the game easily.


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Flame (1133 D (B))
Sun 21 Feb UTC
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Have you ever teach people to play Diplomacy?
My 8-year-old son knows that I play Diplomacy and sometimes even watches the situation progress in my games, but only today I registered him and explaine the rules of the game. He plays chess well, so I think there will be no problems with that.
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Lei Saarlainen (826 D)
Sun 21 Feb UTC
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Spice Island Anonymus Gunboat Tournament
Hello
the Bangkok Diplomacy Club & L'AFJD (association francophone des joueurs de Diplomacy)
are organising a Spice Island Anonymous Gunboat Tournament
the tournament will consist of 3 Spice Island Anonymous gunboat game played in 7 years scored with Bangkok scoring system https://world-diplomacy-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Bangkok_2020_Scoring_System
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David Hood (977 D)
Fri 19 Feb UTC
February 2021 Deadline News is out!
Features a panel discussion on Diplomacy in the classroom, and other features.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZeb75gR2Gs&t=581s
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DaveSpermbank (861 D)
Mon 15 Feb UTC
Country statistics of vdip players
Does anyone know the statistics on where vdip players are situated? I would imagine USA and Australia would be top 2
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lechaton (1000 D)
21 Jan 21 UTC
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Vive la France !
Après le piratage de 18centres et le bug définitif de DOL, les joueurs français de diplomacy sont vraiment à la rue ! Je crée donc un post sur ce site pour se retrouver entre francophones....
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butterhead (975 D)
21 May 12 UTC
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Advertise your NON-live games here!
In an effort to compromise the pro-ads versus anti-ads for games: Post here for your non-live games to cut down on the number of ads but still advertise games. Post game link, WTA or PPSC, and the bet. Note: this doesn't count for special rules games.
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Devonian (1886 D)
29 Jun 15 UTC
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1v1 Tournament Rules, Rankings, and Challenges
Official Rules for 1v1 Ladder Tournament
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Macca573 (1244 D)
29 Jan 21 UTC
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Flash is Dead, Statistics page is Broken
Now that flash is dead, that statistics page is missing the graphs. Is the something in the works to get this fixed?

(it also just makes getting to the page difficult, as Vdip keeps asking for flash, and you have to say no multiple times before you can access the page)
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DaveSpermbank (861 D)
Mon 08 Feb UTC
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Join open position. Team game.
Team game. Read thread before joining!
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kaner406 (1784 D Mod (B) (B))
08 Sep 18 UTC
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Variant Development Thread
This thread is made for the express purpose of cutting down of multiple threads that deal with new variants, ideas, concepts etc...
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Lavitch (1000 D)
12 Jan 21 UTC
New player
I am waiting an invitation to play.
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Zebulon Zirbou (1069 D)
30 Jan 21 UTC
!! Attention, changement de lien pour la réunion de l’Afjd !!
En raison d'un problème technique, nous devons changer le lien de l'Assemblée Générale qui aura lieu aujourd'hui, à 15 heures, heure de Paris
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The Ambassador (1901 D (B) (B))
02 Sep 16 UTC
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New podcast for online Dip games
Hi everyone

Kaner and I have started a podcast about playing Diplomacy online....
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Zebulon Zirbou (1069 D)
29 Jan 21 UTC
Rappel !
RAPPEL : L’assemblée générale 2021 de l’Association Francophone des Joueurs de Diplomacy, c’est demain !
La réunion, ouverte à tous, se tiendra sur zoom, ID 975 7606 7199, samedi 30 Janvier 2021 à 15 heures, heure de Paris. https://zoom.us/j/97576067199
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The Real Wheat (0 D)
29 Jan 21 UTC
Making bigger maps for existing variants
Hey guys,
I''ve found a great guide to making maps for vDip variants, but I'm curious if anyone knows if the site has allowed higher detailed bigger maps of existing variants to be uploaded, or if the site sticks with the maps from the original variant posted. Is there a better place to ask these questions?
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erikip107 (2089 D)
27 Jan 21 UTC
What happens in this scenario?
Question about what happens with these orders on the classic map, in a hypothetical situation of Germany versus Russia.
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Zebulon Zirbou (1069 D)
24 Jan 21 UTC
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Assemblée Générale de l’AFJD
Bonjour à tous,

Pour rappel, l’assemblée générale 2021 de l’Association Francophone des Joueurs de Diplomacy se tiendra samedi prochain 30 Janvier à 15 heures, heure de Paris.
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David E. Cohen (1000 D)
27 Dec 20 UTC
Unconstitutional: Variant Development
Updated proposed map:

https://davidecohen.wixsite.com/diplomiscellany/unconstitutional
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The Ambassador (1901 D (B) (B))
25 Jan 21 UTC
Happy Australia Day!!!
Come celebrate the founding of our great country... by destroying it. https://www.vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=47410
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ubercacher16 (1773 D)
25 Jan 21 UTC
Nexus Full Press Tournament
Registrations for the Nexus Full Press Tournament are closing soon. So far only a few people from vDip have signed up. Let's get the representation up!

Join the Discord here: https://discord.gg/GHCAnPVYPa
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David Hood (977 D)
24 Jan 21 UTC
DBN Deadline News - January 2021 edition is out
Here is the link. this broadcast includes tournament/league news, interviews with hobby organizers, and a panel discussion about Diplomacy clubs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3UCZu90_NA&t=7s
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CYFI (1620 D)
24 Jan 21 UTC
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Replacements Needed (gameID=47238)
We need 4 more replacements in this ER game!

Consider joining! gameID=47238
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DaveSpermbank (861 D)
21 Jan 21 UTC
How do we know when a new variant drops?
Just wondering, if vdip adds a new variant, do they announce it in the forum?
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DaveSpermbank (861 D)
18 Jan 21 UTC
Simple WW2 Larp
A simple roleplaying World War II game.
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