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NigelFarage (1238

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17 Dec 12 UTC

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The End Of The World Diplomacy IX (LIVE)

So, in honor of the Mayan Apocalypse, I want to start a World Diplomacy IX live game on here. Is anyone interested, and what's a good time for you? I want to have it on the 21st, or the night before, spilling over into the early morning hours.

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20 Dec 12 UTC

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New doomsday game :)

http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=11695#gamePanel

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lordphoenix (953

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14 Dec 12 UTC

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I miss this this game

Hello i haven't played on this in forever. I played on the original webdiplomacy and the one after it I believe it was Olidiplomacy. I would like to play a game of original. can i find anyone who would like to participate.

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lordphoenix (953

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18 Dec 12 UTC

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36 hrs... From thread "i miss this game"

36 hours to join "the revolution"

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17 Dec 12 UTC

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Taking over some Imperial Diplomacy II games?

After joining a few Imperial Diplomacy II games, I found out I didn't like the variant and I didn't have enough time for the games. I don't want to make the game unenjoyable for others, and I don't want to NMR, but I'm afraid I might have to if my life stays busy. If anyone wants to take over one or two Imperial Diplomacy games with all-right positions, please PM me and I'll tell you the details.

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WWIV Team Game!!!

Hey, id like to start a team game, but only if there is an alternative to the three person team. Would anyone like to share insight on how to get it started? Would anyone like to commit to a game (regardless of whether or not you have a teammate in mind)??

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Hollywood (1423

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Imperial Dip II(new map) suggestion

Wasnt sure where else to post this, but on the WWIV map, when submitting orders, it's been invaluable that when lands are noted at only initials even on the blown up map, that the initials are also in parantheses when you're submitting orders, it's very confusing right now in some select regions

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Decima Legio (1987

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13 Nov 12 UTC
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suggestion in order to reduce misorders

I don't want to annoy you with a discussion about the issues from misorders.
Simply they usually happen. Expecially when you have to handle a large number of units and you're not familiar with the regions' names. It's not unusual to make mistakes with all those large map variants.

Decima Legio (1987 )
13 Nov 12 UTC
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"A point and click interactive map", on the FAQs...
perhaps it has been discussed in the past.
When I was learning this game, I used to check the adjudications with this free software
http://realpolitik.sourceforge.net/
It was simple, fast and intuitive. but it's something completely different from this website's procedure: it's not my intention to propose a hard-to-implement revolution.

My idea is to make use of something that already exists on the website in order to reduce the cheking operation time:
I'd propose to add one map to the "large map" link showing the set of orders submitted during the ongoing season. This way the orders check would be easier and faster, being it represented only by colored arrows in the map and not by a texted list referring to names on the map.
If something is wrong in the orders list it would be immediately detected.

Thoughts?

Fortress Doerr (978 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

I use this when I go to playdip, I misorder more there than here.

Map idea

Fortress Doerr (978 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

but that is my thinking. I find point and click very annoying. And if you can't look up a territory's name, you really shouldn't be playing DIplomacy (where you have to study the board)

bo_sox48 (937 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

I agree with noob ^

Oli (977 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

A interactive map should be easy to do if you know JavaScript. Unfortunatelly my JavaScript knowledge is very limited.

Devonian (1887 )
13 Nov 12 UTC
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My mis-orders usually occur when I am using a i-phone or kindle fire to enter my moves. I think a point and click interface might make it worse on these platforms. However, if you are simply suggesting a visual map showing the orders already submitted, that would be nice.

Decima Legio (1987 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

Yes, actually I am not asking for an interactive map, I'm asking for a further "large map" to check the current order list, no changes in the order submitting procedure:
for example currently if we're in the fall 1907 season and I click on the "large map" link I can see a map showing my and my opponents' moves and retreats done in spring 1907.
Now the "large map" shows what's just happened.
Well, ok, I'm proposing a "current" large map (not interactive, not point and click) showing what I am going to do: only my fall 1907 orders submitted.

Guaroz (2030 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

I agree with FD, I also find point and click very annoying.
But how about a non-interactive map? A map where, if you like, you can just check whether you actually entered the red/yellow/green arrows you were figuring out?

Decima Legio (1987 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

Just to be clear, It will be almost useless for a 1066 variant, but you may save both time and integrity of your orders list for a World War IV map.

Guaroz (2030 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

Ah, so it would be non-interactive, or "visual" like Devo just said. Ok then, I like it.

I believe it could be done in 2 ways.
1- Now the first large map uselessly shows empty positions. IE, Spring 1901:
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/map.php?gameID=10851&turn=-1&mapType=large
while Spring 1901 moves are actually on the second large map.
If it would be possible to "shift" all turns so that Spring 1901's large map showed Spring 1901 moves & retreats, Fall 1901 showed Fall 1901 moves retreats and builds... and so on... then the last current map would be void and avaliable to show the current moves you saved.
2- Add a button that opens such a large map.

Thoughts anyone?
Oli?

Fortress Doerr (978 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

Now that I understand what he saying, I love the idea!

Oli (977 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

I think this is a neat idea too...
And this shouldn't be too hard to implement. Maybe if I have some time I can give it a try...

Oli (977 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

Did a small test.
You can see the result if you add &preview to a maplink in one of your games.
It displays the Orders saved on the server at the moment...
Any opinions?

Devonian (1887 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

Only your own orders, right?

Decima Legio (1987 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

that works.
Excellent Oli.

Oli (977 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

Any idea for an icon (like the hide/show-moves) icon.?

Decima Legio (1987 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

naturally, a small icon next to the order list would make this "&preview" feature at hand.
"This button will open a large map showing your next orders list. It is suggested to use it to check the orders when you have a huge number of units"... or something similar as the link description

Oli (977 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

I think this should work like the show/hide button (replacing the small map with the preview) and the target of the large map-link.

bozo (2302 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

A very nice feature for final check of moves.

Guaroz (2030 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

Fantastic...
How about the icon being just a P into a square?

Decima Legio (1987 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

P ?

Guaroz (2030 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

yup! the letter P for Preview :)

Decima Legio (1987 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

Well, in my mind, this feature is supposed to help when you have about 10+ units, but I imagine that I (as player) would really appreciate it when I have to check 30 or 40 or even more orders.
For this reason I assume that this feature is more useful when the colored arrows are well discernible... on a new window large map.
On the other hand, I'd prefer to have the visual check on the game page as Oli suggested, so that I don't need to switch pages if something needs to be fixed in the orders list.

Decima Legio (1987 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

Anyway, before making a new "P" link executable we'd better hear some opinions from players used to deal with large maps, namely WWIV, Haven, KW901 and so on.

Captainmeme (1400 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

I'm reasonably used to Haven, and a misorder has cost me a stalemate position on that before. I reckon this would be very useful - also on fast-paced 1v1s as that's probably the variant group with the most misorders, and this would be a fast way of double checking orders for that too.

Oli (977 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

Working with the smallmap it would be nice if this could autoupdate as you enter orders...

Oli (977 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

(At least if you hit save)...

Devonian (1887 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

This is really nice. I already used it, and it caught a mis-order.

Oli (977 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

Added a (not working) image to the board.
May opinions on that? If you have some time you can post an idea on the dev-forum: http://forum.webdiplomacy.net/
or send per mail on the admin/mod email-address.

Oli (977 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

Or we could add a "Save and check" at the bottom of the orders.
Eg. "Save" "Save and check" "Ready"

Oli (977 )
13 Nov 12 UTC

For a first prototype the new icon works now.
You might need to reload the board-page a few times to clear the old javascript-code from your browsercache.
Improvements/Ideas always welcome.

bozo (2302 )
14 Nov 12 UTC

Very nice, it looks like it is working well.

Guaroz (2030 )
14 Nov 12 UTC

Fantastic...this is very useful: thanks Oli & thanks Decima Legio!
Also, the dark-grey arrows showing the "missing move" of a support move are just... essential! :)

Minor issues:
1- I noticed it doesn't work on retreats/builds phases, it shows a "blank" map with no units on it. Wouldn't it be better to have it disabled then? And with a completely light-grey icon showing that this feature is disabled (Obviousely, it could be even better having it working, showing retreats/builds you saved, but IDK how much this would be useful).
2- Found the misorder, saved the right one, re-click on the icon and... nothing changes: it still shows the old misorder. You have to refresh the whole page to get the new preview: is there a way to avoid this?

Thanks again!

Dr.Octagon (985 )
14 Nov 12 UTC

aw man can it take some time, sometimes. lol
idk how it happens either. sometimes i do go ta chill/smoke a b*wl. siting for 12min for new round. then i watch moves, check moves, think, judge,think zone out, then get hungry and not come back forgetting to finish/save last few adjustments oops

Dr.Octagon (985 )
14 Nov 12 UTC

so this works grate man thnx

Dr.Octagon (985 )
14 Nov 12 UTC

oh well now that i go to check it out, i find it dosnt work here!! (only read first and last few post)

Dr.Octagon (985 )
14 Nov 12 UTC

may b i went to wrong link, re post the working one

Oli (977 )
14 Nov 12 UTC

@Guaroz:
1. I just did the diplomacy-phase for now.
2. I need to add a refresh-command to the Save-button. Shouldn't too hard. But nothing I could come up with in 60 minutes....

Guaroz (2030 )
14 Nov 12 UTC

Thanks but no hurry & no worry.... they were just minor issues :)

Retillion (2304 )
14 Nov 12 UTC

Thank you very much Oli !
And thank you very much Decima Legio for the idea !

Leif_Syverson (1725 )
14 Nov 12 UTC

Schweetness!!

Great idea Decima Legio and amazingly quick turn around Oli!

Oli (977 )
14 Nov 12 UTC

Did some more improvements.
Guaroz points are now all addressed.
As always with javascript, you might need to reload the page a few times to remove the old javascript-code from your browser.

Oli (977 )
14 Nov 12 UTC

Luckily the "hide-moves"-option had most of the code implemented already, so I was able to add this fairly easy.

Oli (977 )
14 Nov 12 UTC

PS: This will not work with maps that use a custom map.php (all FoW-maps)

bozo (2302 )
14 Dec 12 UTC
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After using this feature for awhile, it is hard to image playing without it. Thanks for the idea and implementation of this feature.

Guaroz (2030 )
14 Dec 12 UTC

+1. I was thinking the same just yesterday. I couldn't live without it anymore! :)
Thanks DL & Oli.

equator (1514 )
14 Dec 12 UTC

+1. I hadn't noticed it, but it's great!

General Cool (978 )
15 Dec 12 UTC

Wow, I forgot all about this, I should probably start using it in Imperial and Known World games.

Randomizer (1388 )
15 Dec 12 UTC

I just tried it on a few games and the preview is so much better at quickly seeing that my orders are doing what I want and checking supports are there and not a wrong movement.

Thanks a lot for the improvement.

Decima Legio (1987 )
15 Dec 12 UTC

Glad that I've created some preview-addicted :-)

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13 Dec 12 UTC

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Games with fascinating end maps on vDip

While wondering if I was going to join a Year 2020 game, I decide to check out the 6 games already finished and found this impressive, everything but Japan result. ?gameID=4221

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Blank Cheque (1006

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13 Dec 12 UTC

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Question About Self-Dislodgement

Are self-dislodgements allowed?

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12 Dec 12 UTC

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Variant Page bug: Bosnia

It seems as though the variant page has been hacked by Bosnians. Just kidding (hopefully) but the page is down. I tried to access the page and saw:
Error triggered: Undefined index: Bosnia.

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16 Nov 12 UTC

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Rule Change - Known World 901

see below:

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08 Dec 12 UTC

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Enlightenment

Is this variant build anywhere?

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10 Dec 12 UTC

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Seven years' war! Public press enlightenment and succession!

Join the first public press version of enlightenment and succession, and see how exciting we can make this new variant! It's also WTA, with only ten poit buy in! Five more spots, hurry hurry hurry!
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=11457

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12 Dec 12 UTC

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Fast Game

Anyone up for a quick game of Europe 1939? Buy in is 20G with 5 mins/phase. gameID=11544

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12 Dec 12 UTC

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Zeus5

http://vdiplomacy.com/variants.php?variantID=70
This variant is based on WWII but starts in 1901 lol someone should fix this

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09 Dec 12 UTC
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Server reset!

I moved the database to a new server.
Should work much better now, but we lost the last 10 hours.

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butterhead (1272

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28 Nov 12 UTC

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The Capitols SRG!

Just a thought for a SRG I had based off of Kal's comment in the Nuclear Diplomacy thread.

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10 Dec 12 UTC

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Hurricane Sandy

Hurricane Sandy struck and ended up taking out my power. While the power came back a few days after, my computer had broken down. I then had to get it fixed. And then, after that, I ended up completely forgetting Vdip for a week or two until now... what do i do?

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Myself538 (1018

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02 Dec 12 UTC

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Degenerative Diplomacy

Read below for more

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NigelFarage (1238

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08 Dec 12 UTC

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Imperial

It seems ridiculously imbalanced. Anyone finish a game of it yet? How did it work out?

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07 Dec 12 UTC

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VDip super SLOW

It's been very very slow the past day or two. Does the server need a reboot or something? Anyone else seeing this?

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Cunnilingus (1603

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08 Dec 12 UTC
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3v3 Team Game

gameID=11473
Looking for 3 players who want to play a team game in Greek Diplomacy. My team will be Sparta, Athens, and Pella. The other team will be Byzantium, Sardis, and Rhodes.

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drwiggles (1582

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07 Dec 12 UTC

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"Lets create a new empire together"

I haven't played in a while, and I'm taking it slow.

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06 Dec 12 UTC

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EoGs for the 1066 V2.0 test

http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=11385
Here's the game, I'll type up my take on it later (when I'm at my computer and not iPad lol)

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Hollywood (1423

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06 Dec 12 UTC

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How do I find a game I joined that hasn't started yet?

I want to leave a game of Imperial Dip II I joined but want to leave it because it has a 3 day phase, but I can't find it in search anywhere

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04 Dec 12 UTC

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Imperial II

On the variant description the map is too small :-(

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04 Dec 12 UTC

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Imperial Diplomacy II

I am so happy that they finally put Imperial Diplomacy II which is my favorite Diplomacy variant of all time onto Vdiplomacy! I don't know if my suggestion on the variant posting forum about getting this variant onto Vdiplomacy was ever looked at abut maybe it was...

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04 Dec 12 UTC

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Better handling for large-maps?

Any programmers out there?

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04 Dec 12 UTC

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1066 V2.0 Test Games

As you may or may not know, some time ago, myself, butterhead, fasces, and gobbledook ran some test games on the 1066 map to help determine strategies for the map. These were rather helpful (to me at least) and I'm looking for some brave souls to help out on some more, since we have a new version of the map.

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