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Lord Ravager (988 D)
30 Jun 12 UTC
"Doubling Points" Strategy: why not?
Dear readers, I'm starting a debate which will cause lot of contrasts and agreements, but I think it is to be discussed.
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Lord Ravager (988 D)
30 Jun 12 UTC
The structure of the Point mechanics, here like into other Diplomacy on-line games, is that when you join the first time you are given 100 D, and if you ever lose points getting below 100 you are later restored back the full 100.
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Lord Ravager (988 D)
30 Jun 12 UTC
Then why should be negative to bet all 100 D into own first game, especially if short, to "double" (in case of victory) or to lose actually 0 cause you would be restored all the 100?
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Fortress Doerr (978 D)
30 Jun 12 UTC
i think it is a fair startegy. Using your argument, if could also be said that you shouldn't just play one game for the first time because you only have gain and no risk
Lord Ravager (988 D)
30 Jun 12 UTC
I see the most players start always by little point bets, so when finally reach more than 100 D they are scared at the idea of risking the so slow gained pots. But none pretends a so prudent player must join a "Risky gambling game" of course! While it is just perfect for all newcomers with their starting 100 D.
kaner406 (2061 D Mod (B))
30 Jun 12 UTC
http://forum.webdiplomacy.net/viewtopic.php?p=288#p288
RUFFHAUS 8 (2490 D)
30 Jun 12 UTC
Says the guy who shows up with his "friend" to play a four player game.
Lord Ravager (988 D)
30 Jun 12 UTC
kaner, the link doesn't work to me :(
What "friend" are you referring to, RUFF? Me? 'cause I've been here for a long time... And I like high stakes games... 'cause this is a game and who cares about the points, really?
Lord Ravager (988 D)
30 Jun 12 UTC
I can say this to let people not thinking about anything:
1) I am an experienced player into Diplomacy BOARD game (live) with real life friends, but none of them plays on-line, as they tells me.
2) I have a little experience into PHP Diplomacy on Facebook
3) I am new here in Web Diplomacy
Guaroz (2030 D (B))
30 Jun 12 UTC
kaner I can't open your link.... is it correct?
Captainmeme (1400 D Mod (B))
30 Jun 12 UTC
It is a good strategy, if you aim for winning Dip Points - it is probably a widely accepted strategy over on WebDip. However, it isn't really used here for several reasons;
1) Nobody really cares about DPoints. People prefer to focus on their stats, which don't change depending on how big a pot any game is.
2) You wouldn't be able to play many games at a time, and most people here like to play multiple games simulaneously.
3) 100 DPoint games, especially on WebDip, tend to attract the sort of newbies who NMR instantly. It's probably because they don't really care about their points or the game, so they bet it all instantly (I'm not labeling you as one of these, just saying that's what happens). That's why most professional WebDip games have 101 point bets; so these people can't join.
4) A lot of the variants on this site are slightly unbalanced, so a lot of people won't risk 100 D in case they get a bad country (Frisia in NSW for example). I know I said people don't care about DPoints here, but they still don't like losing vast amounts of them through something that is no fault of their own.
5) No-one will join a 100 bet game for the reasons above, so no-one makes them.

I hope that clears things up for you :D
RUFFHAUS 8 (2490 D)
30 Jun 12 UTC
Apparently people who like high stakes games care about DPoints. Apparently some people like them so much that they are not willing to accumulate them over a course of time so that they might be measured for their intent. When some joker shows up wanting to play a largely untested variant, not to mention one that is flawed with a hyper advantage to one nation, which oh by the way just so happens to be the one that the joker has signer on to play.

If Lord Ravager (or Atlas for that matter) is such an ace, or in a hurry to play high stakes, then let him enter a real game and take his chances. What's the obsession with the North Sea map?


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gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
30 Jun 12 UTC
Another day, another CD
We need a replacement. This guy missed a turn earlier then returned and then CDed, so position is not great, but it is not terrible either.

http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=7623
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Texastough (870 D X)
30 Jun 12 UTC
Advertise your LIVE-GAMES here
All live games get advertised here
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kaner406 (2061 D Mod (B))
24 Jun 12 UTC
Oli & Amby are on holidays
so the two active mods are myself (kaner406) and fasces349 ( userID=261 ).
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butterhead (1272 D)
29 Jun 12 UTC
To all players in my games:
I do apologize for my NMR's, 1 CD, lack of Comm in some games, and making phases with just hours left. I have been very busy with RL situations and it has been a struggle to get online. I should be ok now, but my apologize again.
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Danaman (1542 D)
17 Jun 12 UTC
Chaos Gunboat
gameID=8704

I know I should not post who I am in a gunboat but with 34 players needed this will be the only chance it has to get started.
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Lord Ravager (988 D)
28 Jun 12 UTC
Two more Players needed for a new North Sea game!
http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8830
Variant: North Sea Wars, 1 days & 12 hours / phase
Public Press, 100 to join
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Lord Ravager (988 D)
27 Jun 12 UTC
New game for 4 player: Ravagers of North Sea
Variant: North Sea Wars
1 days & 12 hours / phase
Public Press
100 D to join
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Randomizer (1388 D)
21 Jun 12 UTC
Can see messages and order buttons for Maharajah game
I'm playing a gunboat Maharajah game
http://www.vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8689
and the global messages aren't appearing as well as no links at the bottom to orders, maps, and messages. Is anyone else having the same problem?
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drwiggles (1582 D)
25 Jun 12 UTC
Game crashed for a while
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=8103#gamePanel
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gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
22 Jun 12 UTC
Do all prequels suck?
Prometheus is SOOOO terrible. Phantom Menace....sucked. Hannibal Rising.....sucked. The Thing (2012).....sucked. And no Red Dragon does not count as a prequel.
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Mods, please check the forum for an update...
No response is required, just knowing we are at 2 at the monet, I wanted to make you all aware.

Move along, there is nothing further to see here, people. That is all. Thank you.
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Japan
Hello there! Please join! http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=8755
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fuzzyhartle1 (856 D)
25 Jun 12 UTC
I need a game sitter
I need a game sitter from June 30th to July 16th. please PM me if you can do this big favor for me.
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drwiggles (1582 D)
25 Jun 12 UTC
glitches in the pirates map
We've noticed a few color glitches, and a few other potential adjudication errors.
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taylor4 (936 D)
24 Jun 12 UTC
Renaissance Italy needs fill-in
Sub for cd gameID=7781
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GOD (1791 D Mod (B))
24 Jun 12 UTC
labdip problem
i cant login in labdiplo since yesterday...
:((
2 replies
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Jonnikhan (1554 D)
24 Jun 12 UTC
Pirate Game Map Glitch
Hi Oli, gameID=7079 has a missing map again. Could you fix it one more time? The game should be ending this phase/year.
3 replies
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Rancher (1207 D)
24 Jun 12 UTC
webdip problem?
can't log on
9 replies
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Wolfman (1230 D)
03 Jun 12 UTC
7 Powers of the World (Team Game Concept)
This would be a team game concept. I would like to see how fun it might be. Along with getting, others input as how to make it even better.
108 replies
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airborne (970 D)
20 Jun 12 UTC
Europe 1815
Thoughts and comments
http://forum.webdiplomacy.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=672&p=4938#p4938
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BosephJennett (1204 D)
22 Jun 12 UTC
Request for Mods
I submitted something to the Forum this morning and haven't heard back yet. Just want to be sure it didn't slip through the cracks. Thanks!
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adalephat (733 D)
17 Jun 12 UTC
Manipulations Testgame
I'd liek to organize a testgame for the Manipulations Rules (see links inside)
3 replies
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adalephat (733 D)
16 Jun 12 UTC
Manipulations Game
A set of auxilliary rules which I want to test: see in the discussion.
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butterhead (1272 D)
02 Jun 12 UTC
butterheads classic series concluding:
Well, as some of the games start to come to an end, I figured I'd post results here for those of us(like me and Leif) who were interested in the results of all games. so here we go with the finished games(ordered from person with most centers to least)
12 replies
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Jonnikhan (1554 D)
19 Jun 12 UTC
No Map! Admin?
Oli, please help! gameID=7079 has a bug - the map isn't loading at all for anyone. Please help!
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King Atom (1186 D)
17 Jun 12 UTC
(+4)
GRAMMAR!
To, too, and two. GET IT STRAIGHT, PEOPLE!
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Grand Admiral Thrawn (1207 D)
14 Jun 12 UTC
(+4)
Daily +1 Pyramid Thread for vDip!
The rule is simple and laid out by Diplomat33; you must +1 everyone who posts before you. Enjoy!
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javidtl (976 D)
16 Jun 12 UTC
Join this game
We need 2 more players to start this game. It's going to be fun.

http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=8677
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