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BigOtto (1094 D)
24 Mar 22 UTC
Convoys with +2 strength variant?
Would a Classic variant with this change (i.e. armies convoyed to a place bringing an attack power of 2 units) be interesting? A convoy involving more than one ship wouldn't have the attack power stack, by the way. If a variant already exists with this property, what is it?
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Kelvee (946 D)
23 Mar 22 UTC
Creating my own variant
is there a way for me to create my own variant and play with my friends? if so how?
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Malarky (1000 D)
26 Feb 22 UTC
Online Diplomacy Championship 2022
Not a variant map or board, but still - take a look and sign-up if you haven't already! https://www.playdiplomacy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=62261
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David Hood (976 D)
18 Mar 22 UTC
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March 2022 Deadline News from DBN
This month's episode includes a panel discussion with Diplomacy content creators, an interview with DBNI winner Jason Mastbaum, and headlines from around the world of Diplomacy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv2EHlg1GC0&t=2600s
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Diplomacy and school
I was thinking about chess, to which some school dedicate afternoon courses and which is well known and respected by many, as opposed to Diplomacy
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Devonian (1887 D)
29 Jun 15 UTC
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1v1 Tournament Rules, Rankings, and Challenges
Official Rules for 1v1 Ladder Tournament
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Day_rulr (982 D)
27 Feb 22 UTC
The Fall of USA
Here, as a reply, I will post a link to the new game for people who want to join it new, and for those specific people who were in the original before time expired

If you are in the next game and time runs out and not enough people joined, then I will make yet another one, and just return here to continue joining it if the pre-game time ever runs out again
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David E. Cohen (1000 D)
20 Feb 22 UTC
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Updated Variant - Mandate of Heaven v2.0: Comments and Criticism Wanted
Please take a look: https://diplomiscellany.tripod.com/id6.html
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David Hood (976 D)
19 Feb 22 UTC
February 2022 Deadline News is out!
The latest episode of my Deadline News show on the Diplomacy Broadcast Network just dropped - the Feb 2022 edition includes a panel discussion about throwing solos, a preview of the DBN Invitational, and headlines from around the world of Diplomacy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chHCLJS_m3s
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Lavitch (1023 D)
01 Feb 22 UTC
Switch places 2 units?
Here are my moves:(game asd)
◦ The fleet at Spain {Spa} (West Coast) move to Gibraltar {Gib}. (fail)
◦ The army at Gibraltar {Gib} move to Spain {Spa}. (fail)
Thanks for your answer.
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Flame (1073 D)
23 Jan 22 UTC
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Final map test
Please enter for final 1908 variant map test!
https://webdiplomacy.ru/board.php?gameID=12065

Game is unrated. Just gunboat mode for a quick test!
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chy (2164 D)
08 Dec 21 UTC
Rule confirmation
Will the game go to X-way draw if X players vote draw and all other players vote concede, where X is a positive integer greater than 1?
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Malarky (1000 D)
30 Jan 22 UTC
NOTES ON A NAPKIN #1
https://sites.google.com/view/diplomaticonpublishing/
I'm looking for contributors to #2. Deadline for contributions is 30 April 2022.
I was thinking vDip would be a rich resource for variant articles :)
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axelou (1000 D)
29 Jan 22 UTC
axelou is here
Hi, I'm here. How to play ?
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David Hood (976 D)
21 Jan 22 UTC
January 2022 Deadline News from DBN
Newest Deadline News is out - including interviews with Siobhan Nolen and Eber Condrell, a throwdown debate about which site is best between partisans of WebDip, PlayDip and Conspiracy, and headlines from around the world of Diplomacy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT6OdvvJFyg&t=2917s
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On the subject of inverted time continuum simulation in Diplomacy
That said, the arguments in favour of this idea are the followings;
Predisposition of the game and its written orders to manipulate in-game moves history,
Presence of a game master that can keep orders written for the future secret,
Sheer coolness of doing such a thing
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epstein (1031 D)
14 Nov 21 UTC
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Advertise Your Live Games Here!
I am providing this space to the community, free of charge, in case you would like to advertise an upcoming live game!

Or an older live game!
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Relax™ (1370 D)
28 Dec 21 UTC
Xbox live
anyone on xbox?
i got a 2 month subscription reward from discord. anyone want it?
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Zebulon Zirbou (876 D)
31 Dec 21 UTC
Assemblée Générale 2022 de l’AFJD
Cher joueur de Diplomacy,
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Requirements to moderate game?
Is it 25 games and a minimum RR of 97? Thanks!
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gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
12 Dec 21 UTC
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A comment on common courtesy
Stuff happens in life and people occasionally need help from Mods to exit games without destroying the games for other players. Players who need Mods to remove them and delay games should provide a list of all of their games to the Mods. This is common courtesy.
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David Hood (976 D)
11 Dec 21 UTC
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December 2021 Deadline News is out!
Featuring interviews, news headlines, and a panel discussion about balance of power considerations in Diplomacy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l93XUc4Odg
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User tag
Hey y'all, I made this account a while ago, and, am no longer vibing with my choice of name. Is there a way to change it without deleting this one and making a new account?
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Anon (?? D)
06 Dec 21 UTC
Gunboat support? Sticky Keys is filled with cheaters?
https://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=50882

In this game Britain has supported Russia on Autumn 1941 and convoyed France the turn before. This is a No Messaging game. Are they teaming?
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Twilight Struggle & Imperial Board Game
I'm interested in one/both of these board games. I'm very curious to hear opinions about these from DIP players.
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User tag
Hey y'all, I made this account a while ago, and, am no longer vibing with my choice of name. Is there a way to change it without deleting this one and making a new account?
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Jetam (737 D)
03 Dec 21 UTC
Developing a new map
How to digitalize my own diplomacy map? It works on paper and I would like to share it with Y'all
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CrimiClown (969 D)
02 Dec 21 UTC
Cannot post to modforum
Has anyone had this issue? I cannot post on the modforum to unpause some games for us.
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AJManso4 (2318 D)
15 Nov 21 UTC
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Error message when trying to open my games
Error triggered: assert(): Calling assert() with a string argument is deprecated.


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Hirnsaege (1903 D)
17 Nov 21 UTC
@SierraLeone:

having external libraries that still are PHP5-only is hard to imagine but possible (and hard to fix if it's really the case, because age-old code from another developer that obviously has lost interest in supporting it ... good luck).

having some own php scripts with php5 commands that are not supported anymore by php7/8, or require more precise typing of variables, expressions, ... is very likely to be the cause here ... after all, php is an interpreted / realtime-compiled language, so changing the interpreter may change the results.
Theoretically it's not a difficult thing to fix, depending on how organized the codebase is – find the culprits, replace these commands with the more modern and robust versions as stated in the documentation, done. It might even be it's just one single line of code somewhere that makes everything stop working, like a database query that requires other syntax now, or a regular expression that needs to be more precise now ... It might also be that it's a messy business if the code base is less clean, having changes in a lots of places.
SierraLeone (1648 D)
17 Nov 21 UTC
Both webDiplomacy and vDip are mentioned at times - was one created from the other? From a software perspective, is vDip an entirely separate codebase, or are there still shared components?
Hirnsaege (1903 D)
17 Nov 21 UTC
This is the main codebase: https://github.com/kestasjk/webDiplomacy
– webdiplomacy is like the main branch or main user of it: https://www.webdiplomacy.net/developers.php
– vdiplomacy is a parallel setup with focus on new variants, but the underlying base is more or less the same (though not necesarily the latest version)
– there are others too that went more or less far off the main branch
Strider (1604 D)
17 Nov 21 UTC
Would it be possible to get an email from admin when site is back online?
tobi1 (1997 D Mod (S))
17 Nov 21 UTC
@Strider: I do not know how feasible that would be. At least there is not automated method to send a mail to all active members of the site. But games will surely get a few days of extensions when we resume so there should be plenty of time for everyone to notice. Also I will try to give a more concrete date in advance when that is possible.

@SierraLeone: WebDip was initially created in the mid 2000s by kestas and forked by Oli into what would then become vdiplomacy. Both forks where developed in parallel since then but in the past we tried to merge new features of webdip into the vdip code base. However, due to the grown number of distinct vdip features in logic this requires more effort nowadays than simply merging the changes from the webdip repository.
Backend code is exclusively written in php and partially relies on features that changed with php 7. Adjustments for php 7 were made on WebDip last year but have not arrived here yet.
Flame (1073 D)
18 Nov 21 UTC
Actually I don't understand hoster politics to stop php5-service.
Hirnsaege (1903 D)
18 Nov 21 UTC
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the php maintainers themselves stopped supporting php5 --> if there ever is a major security hole in the framework, it won't be fixed in reasonable time, if at all.

this means the hosters are in danger to run non-secure software on their servers, and if some 0-day exploit pops up, all they could do is let it destroy customers data until notized, and then pull the plug very fast, with no one able to export their data, etc. from that moment on (remember most people hosting things are really professionals). this is no professional policy for a service provider.

so pushing the customers out of php5 was the way to go the last two years, with lots of information about the hows and whys coming via newsletters, letters, serverlog warnings, ... at some point, shutting it down is the way to go to minimize risk and optimize costs for maintaining it in parallel to 7, 7.1, 7.2, 8, ...

(it's interesting to see that expensive, service driven hosters still support it, but you payed for it indirectly).
Relax™ (1370 D)
18 Nov 21 UTC
well this is a drag!
Flame (1073 D)
18 Nov 21 UTC
@Hirnsaege
Thanx
SierraLeone (1648 D)
19 Nov 21 UTC
@tobi1 thanks. From my experience, branched code always does indeed diverging as you've alluded trying to merge in code from other branches simply becomes harder and harder over time.
Could this have anything to do with the recent change of clock, daylight saving time, for some cities?
CCR (1957 D)
21 Nov 21 UTC
No
CCR (1957 D)
21 Nov 21 UTC
Could we proceed with the other games, error free?
Hirnsaege (1903 D)
21 Nov 21 UTC
none of the games are processing, as the the calculation of results, previews, interactive input, ... is not working, it's not just one game.
SierraLeone (1648 D)
21 Nov 21 UTC
Any update on progress?
tobi1 (1997 D Mod (S))
21 Nov 21 UTC
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Unfortunately but somewhat expected, the upgrade to the newest webdip version did not go smooth and appeared also to be insufficient for our current issues. Thus, we are not able to continue yet.

I am currently testing the updated setup and hope to not find too many more issues. Due to limited spare time in the upcoming days and uncertainity on how many issues still need to be fixed, I cannot give a reliable date by now. Might be a few days but might also take two or more weeks if much functionality needs attention.


@CCR: According to our error logs the routine to generate the board map is also affected by the server upgrade and broken. Thus, I expect every game to break with the next phase transition when map images can no longer be retrieved from cache.
erikip107 (2539 D)
21 Nov 21 UTC
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As long as it may take, I think I speak for everybody in that we appreciate the time you are (all the mods) putting in to get the site up and running again. Thank you!
SierraLeone (1648 D)
21 Nov 21 UTC
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Just to echo erikip107 .... absolutely appreciate the effort being put into sorting this out. Thanks for the update, and I hope for your sakes you don't find too many more problems.
Lightsong (984 D)
22 Nov 21 UTC
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Absolutely appreciate the effort as well. Is there anything that we members of the community can do to help? I am sure there are a number of us out here with programming experience.
MiraiNikkiSan (1852 D)
22 Nov 21 UTC
I have limited programming experience but I'm willing to help however I can
Flame (1073 D)
23 Nov 21 UTC
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I don't know if I could but I am ready to help too.
ubercacher16 (2169 D)
24 Nov 21 UTC
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Thanks everyone for dealing with this
tobi1 (1997 D Mod (S))
24 Nov 21 UTC
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A patch is now sent to our Git repository and will get deployed on the server soon. Fingers crossed that I missed not too many breaking issues. :)
Chuttbugger (2695 D)
24 Nov 21 UTC
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Three cheers for tobi1, the hero of vDiplomacy!
SierraLeone (1648 D)
24 Nov 21 UTC
That is good news. Thanks again.
Udvarid (1354 D)
25 Nov 21 UTC
Hurray!
Hirnsaege (1903 D)
25 Nov 21 UTC
Thanks in advance for the fix ... going to be busy for the server and the players when it hit's the live version :-)

As for helping:
Server backend is not an area where i could deliver quality work, but if there ever is need for help in frontend (HMTL, CSS, JS, UX, UI, Graphics, icon systems ... anything that lives in the browser), i'm ready to contribute.
(i even had made some concepts a few years ago to improve usability and overview without changing the feel *too* much and was in contact with webdiplomacy people and Oli, but it never proceeded further).
AJManso4 (2318 D)
25 Nov 21 UTC
how will the process of getting the games gojng again work? Like 4 days added to all game phases or smth?
AJManso4 (2318 D)
25 Nov 21 UTC
time for everyone to realize it’s back up haha
tobi1 (1997 D Mod (S))
26 Nov 21 UTC
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Main update was now installed successfully. There are still some open issues that require some attention before we can start again. I believe that we can resume game processing by the start of the upcoming week.

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David E. Cohen (1000 D)
28 Nov 21 UTC
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A Sad Anniversary Today.
One full year.

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