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butterhead (945 D)
09 Apr 21 UTC
Divided States Team Game
Hey guys! Back in the day, we used to do a lot of team games on here(chaos map, classic, etc). Im curious if people would be interested in doing a team game of the divided states map... Yes, I know, 50 people is a LOT to get for a team game. Here is how it would work.
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lfischl (796 D)
Thu 09 PM UTC
I think we should just have someone do teams and get this started. we've waited so long
erikip107 (2198 D)
Thu 10 PM UTC
Yeah, none of the suggestions have been *bad* in my opinion, someone just pick and lets get it going!
Frozen Dog (1467 D)
Thu 11 PM UTC
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I nominate AJManso's set!
RUFFHAUS 8 (2454 D)
Fri 03 AM UTC
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Unpoplar opinion time:

What's the point of playing on 36 or 50 player map, and then forming regional teams of nations contigupus to each other? Why not just play a 12-18 player variant? The team idea actually has a great deal of merit and attraction if the the teams are randomly assigned, and even more if they are unknown to the players at the start.

Everyone seems to be more worried about the alleged fairness of the team/nation assignments, than in actually playing this game. The board assignments have far less to do with fairness that the skill/experience of the players and the amount of effort that players put into actual diplomacy and strategic and tactical analysis.

What this game needs is a GM to dole out the nation assignments, and set the teams of players, enforce any necessary team based rules, and prevent the game from going on on some cowboy tangent solo run. From there players can announce their team allfiliation wi ther player or not. The teams will become apparent to most as the game evolves, but keeping them officially secret adds an element of suspense and intrigue, and quite probably - more diplomacy. Using randomly assigned teams allows for the secret team alliances within a game that will open up with regional alliance irrespective of the teams. The alliance changing dynamics of regional alliances clashing with team alliances would be extremely exciting. The added diplomatic intrigue of disclosing team idenities or not, or lying/inferring about them would add a wave of diplomatic drama.

You're on the brink of an epic game, but sliding back into mediocrity because you're all worried about the fairness of the opening two years of the game. If no one else know s the teams, this is a non issue. If the teams are not contiguous to start, it's a non-issue. The issue will be what is a formal team and what is a board alliance. That's the value of a team game.
lfischl (796 D)
Fri 04 AM UTC
I agree with this guy. Have someone GM
erikip107 (2198 D)
Fri 04 AM UTC
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That was kinda similar to our last game - Unfortunately, people got bored before a single team was eliminated and we drew.
mouse (2019 D)
Fri 06 AM UTC
Yeah, the issue with completely random teams is that in most cases the actual teams have no real way to interact with each other early on, and thus by the time the mid-game is reached and the 'team' element could really come into its own, every team is down at least one member, likely more, and it loses the entire distinction from just a regular game - in fact, makes it worse than a regular game from a 'working together' perspective, since there isn't even the 'will my neighbour stab me?' question - any not on your team *will* stab at *some* point, even if it makes no positional sense to, because the game rules dictate such.

Thus the necessity of having at least one neighboring teammate, to allow the concept of 'team game' to be actually relevant from the start.
I just think we should get started. Each group set is pretty much as good as the other
AJManso4 (1739 D)
Fri 07 AM UTC
yeah and we cant just start a game without any thought to it lol it would be horrible
AJManso4 (1739 D)
Fri 07 AM UTC
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-Norway/Denmark
-Scotland/France
-Sweden/Livonian Order
-England/Burgundy
-Brandenburg/Teutonic Order
-Milan/Savoy
-Switzerland/Bavaria
-Austria/Hungary
-Bohemia/Saxony
-Poland/Lithuania
-Castile/Portugal
-Pope/Tlemcen
-Tunis/Naples
-Morocco/Aragon
-Ottomans/Genoa
-GH/QQ
-Mamluks/Venice
-Novgorod/Muscovy

^^Updated list and we are set to go! Just need a mod to organize the draw and we are set
mouse (2019 D)
Fri 08 AM UTC
...if the issue was "Eng/Sco only has 2 possible ways to go" then I would very strongly argue that Sco/Fra is even worse as it literally only has *one* way to go if it wants to remain a viable team.

But whatever. We're clearly not going to get a universal agreement here, and a game is better than not (unless I end up saddled with one of these bullshit positions. But I suppose if you've got numbers to make a game without me, or are willing to chance the 1/9 of needing to find a replacement or re-roll, than I've nothing to complain about)
AJManso4 (1739 D)
01:41 AM UTC
Alright so when are we starting?
erikip107 (2198 D)
02:07 AM UTC
I can make the game I suppose. Before I do...

Random country assignment or choose?
What should I set the win condition to? (how many centers)
2-day phases, yeah?
full press?
I think the assignment should be random. 2 day phase and full press both sound good. Also, shouldn't we get a mod to GM this?
erikip107 (2198 D)
02:33 AM UTC
GM in what way? Team assignment? Just to make sure we adhere to the rules?


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pcrowther (1254 D)
Sat 01 AM UTC
Trying to post in mod forum
I’m trying to post in the mod forum but it doesn’t look like it’s saving/posting the thread. Am I doing something wrong?
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gman314 (1016 D)
12 Mar 11 UTC
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Winning
Oli won.
On Imperial Civilization's off-topic thread (link inside), there was a brief stint of Second to Last Person to Post Wins. Now that the thread is closed, Oli won.
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butterhead (945 D)
21 May 12 UTC
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Advertise your NON-live games here!
In an effort to compromise the pro-ads versus anti-ads for games: Post here for your non-live games to cut down on the number of ads but still advertise games. Post game link, WTA or PPSC, and the bet. Note: this doesn't count for special rules games.
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David Hood (976 D)
Fri 03 PM UTC
May 2021 Deadline News is Out!
Enjoy the Dixiecon news, the panel discussion with Jordan Connors (Conq), Katie Gray and Jason Mastbaum, and headlines from around the world of Diplomacy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZUQ19Shp0I

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Mikey99 (2104 D)
Thu 03 PM UTC
VP
Kinda curious on VP... I understand that the gains are lesser as one gets higher, but how does one player (for example) get to over 2000 with under 12 total games and only 1 win? I know its not that consequential in the grand scheme of things. but as I get to a moderately respectable total, the vp gains from a win or draw seem trivial and disproportionate to lost vp when losing. How does VP calculations actually work?
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SimonPeterWatson (994 D)
Tue 11 May UTC
Giving SCs up in order to prevent a solo win.
What’s the opinion of everyone when it comes to giving up ones SCs to a non-leader in order to help prevent a solo win? Good strategy or cheating?
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BigOtto (971 D)
Thu 06 May UTC
Sitter Needed
Unexpected stuff happened IRL. Can anyone please sit for me in two of my games?
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kaner406 (1760 D Mod (B) (B))
08 Sep 18 UTC
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Variant Development Thread
This thread is made for the express purpose of cutting down of multiple threads that deal with new variants, ideas, concepts etc...
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leelee.lewie (1073 D)
Sun 02 May UTC
Dropping out due to life getting too busy/complicated
Hi all, I am not sure how but I have seen it before. How do I drop out of all my games if I just do not have the time for it anymore? I would hate to ruin the ongoing games my fellow players are in and would like to have a way to drop out without a penalty. Would be greatly appreciated!! :)
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Caustic (1157 D)
Tue 27 Apr UTC
Cant find a forum post
I can't find the variant development post in forum. Iv looked at every page twice. Idk what my deal is. Can someone past the URL to it or tell me what page its on? Please and thank you
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butterhead (945 D)
Tue 27 Apr UTC
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Appreciation
Thank you mods for just being super awesome and taking great care of this site. We appreciate everything you do, and think you guys are all around awesome.

Thank you, that is all
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Caustic (1157 D)
Tue 27 Apr UTC
Cant find a forum post
I can't find the variant development post in forum. Iv looked at every page twice. Idk what my deal is. Can someone past the URL to it or tell me what page its on? Please and thank you

On a side note. A search bar to search threw forum would be nice to have
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Tabrith (979 D X)
Tue 27 Apr UTC
Suppressive Mods
Cant even air grievances without getting shut down. These mods are unbelievable snow flakes unable to handle even the smallest issue. Pathetic.
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Tabrith (979 D X)
Tue 27 Apr UTC
Worthless Mods
Mod Team are a bunch of useless, lying, sub-humans, if you have an issue then just give up and forget about having it be dealt with properly.
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Chaqa (1579 D)
23 Apr 21 UTC
Dark Mode???
y no dark mode
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Question on retreats
Hello all, I haven't found a satisfying answer on it on this page. So to clarify it ones and for all: If two units bounce into one territory, does this prevent a third unit to retreat into it in the upcoming retreat phase?

Thanks for the answer! I hope this thread helps others too.
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Interactive map bug
is it just me or does t.he interactive map only work on mobile devices now? I've tried to on my desktop, laptop and phone and it only seems to work on the phone.
Thanks
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David Hood (976 D)
23 Apr 21 UTC
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April 2021 Deadline News is out, from the Diplomacy Broadcast Network
This month's edition includes interviews, a panel discussion on ethics in Diplomacy, and headlines from around the world of Diplomacy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv6eYt-bMhI
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ubercacher16 (1701 D)
21 Apr 21 UTC
New Tournament?
Message below:
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JECE (1466 D)
15 Apr 21 UTC
Is the ModForum still being used? I'm in no hurry, but I posted this over two weeks ago:
Subject: Can't create new game with custom phase length

I'm trying to create a game with 42-hour phases, but keep getting this error: "The phase value is too large or small; it must be between 5 minutes and 10 days."
I was able to do this a few years ago without any problem: gameID=32997
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DaveSpermbank (1062 D)
24 Mar 21 UTC
Anyone else having trouble with the interactive map?
When I click on a unit of mine, no buttons show up. I haven't been doing any messing around in the settings for a long time, and my orders are not readied. Anyone else? Help?
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drano019 (2561 D Mod)
17 Aug 20 UTC
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Europa Renovatio - Team Game Interest
See below.
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Halt (2163 D)
17 Apr 21 UTC
Modern Europe Team Game
Inspired by the Divided States Team Game, I think it'd be fun to have a smaller one.
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CYFI (1801 D)
13 Apr 21 UTC
Election variant--Civil war map
See next post for rules
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lechaton (961 D)
21 Jan 21 UTC
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Vive la France !
Après le piratage de 18centres et le bug définitif de DOL, les joueurs français de diplomacy sont vraiment à la rue ! Je crée donc un post sur ce site pour se retrouver entre francophones....
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Flame (1133 D (B))
02 Apr 21 UTC
Nuclear strike option
In several Diplomacy game variants we have the Nuclear strike rule which allows any player to destroy any (or only foe's - I don't remember exactly) unit once in a game.
See below...
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umbletheheep (1023 D)
01 Apr 21 UTC
Win an Original 1959 Diplomacy Game!
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DaveSpermbank (1062 D)
16 Mar 21 UTC
Diplomacy x Among Us
10 players. 7 crewmates. 3 impostors.
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gopher27 (1641 D Mod)
23 Mar 21 UTC
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Where is kaner?
We have had to Extend a game because kaner never showed up after joining. Brisbanites might want to check to see whether he may be trapped under a refrigerator as a result of a cookie jar related accident. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQe0OWZvwWo
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