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gman314 (1016 D)
12 Mar 11 UTC
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Winning
Oli won.
On Imperial Civilization's off-topic thread (link inside), there was a brief stint of Second to Last Person to Post Wins. Now that the thread is closed, Oli won.
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JonasGarrigueMasaryk (1000 D)
Mon 04 PM UTC
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I made a big map viewer (to switch between turns easily)
I wanted a way to switch between turns while viewing the big map, so I put together this simple viewer app quickly: https://vdiplo-bigmap.netlify.app/ Hint: you can use the arrow keys to switch between turns.

I am currently playing my first game ever, so this may not make a lot of sense to the more experienced among you (which is all of you). Let me know if you find this helpful or not.
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butterhead (975 D)
21 May 12 UTC
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Advertise your NON-live games here!
In an effort to compromise the pro-ads versus anti-ads for games: Post here for your non-live games to cut down on the number of ads but still advertise games. Post game link, WTA or PPSC, and the bet. Note: this doesn't count for special rules games.
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Devonian (1871 D)
29 Jun 15 UTC
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1v1 Tournament Rules, Rankings, and Challenges
Official Rules for 1v1 Ladder Tournament
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The Ambassador (2027 D (B) (B))
05 Aug 20 UTC
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Declaration of War game
Anyone interested in a Declaration of War game? It's meant to simulate a time of gentlemanly war...
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ScubaSteve (1342 D)
10 Aug 20 UTC
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My vote (I appreciate this is not a democracy) is that a 3rd party can remain allied to two allies that are at war. Realistically speaking, this better models the real world than an all or nothing alliance. The US is allied to Israel who is technically at war with other countries that we allied with (Saudi Arabia, Jordan, etc.)

A country being someone's ally but being "unable" to help them is about as realpolitik as you can get.
mouse (2053 D)
10 Aug 20 UTC
>That's a good point support moves can be used aggressively so: yes? You can also support move their units but only into territories they already control. At least, that's the ruling that would make sense to me.

Just to specifically complicate this, how would that impact the following situation?
I am at war with Player 2 and Player 3, who are allied with each other.
Player 3 is bouncing themselves in a Player 2 centre, to stop my nearby unit taking possession of it.
Given general positions, it benefits me for Player 2 to have a disband, even if Player 3 gets a build, so I support one of their bouncing units in.

As another hypothetical -
I am at war with both Player 2 and Player 3, who are at war with each other.
Player 2 has a centre they will likely lose to Player 3. I have a unit there, but not enough to be able to force my own possession. Due to other considerations (I am actively attacking Player 2 in other locations) I have no interest in attempting to establish a ceasefire with Player 2. However, I consider it actively in my interests to support Player 2's unit holding position as it will deny Player 3 gaining possession of the centre.Can I support hold my enemy?

Personally, I'd say "when at war there are no limits to your interactions with a party" rather than trying to limit "when at war you can only have hostile interactions with a party" would be a much easier way to go about things.
mouse (2053 D)
10 Aug 20 UTC
Also, I'd be tentatively interested in joining the party if there's still room.
Macca573 (1141 D)
10 Aug 20 UTC
I agree with your final conclusion mouse, unless such an agreement between players would cause otherwise.
Macca573 (1141 D)
10 Aug 20 UTC
1) AKeeFaTheHun
2) berberstrijder
3) Bonatogether
4) ezpickins
5) ingebot
6) Macca573
7) Player5
8) ScubaSteve
9) Swede03
10) The Ambassador
11) ubercacher16
12) kingpin
13) mouse ?
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kingpin (1143 D)
10 Aug 20 UTC
My only problem with the tiered system is that there's scope for it to take tactical depth out of the game. It's very common for SCs to be handed across. For example, if England wants to hand Sweden to Germany, are they obliged to announce to the entire board that that's on the table (potentially alerting Russia to the fact that a convoy to Livonia isn't happening that turn). Could both parties message the GM privately instead?
Bonatogether (1199 D)
10 Aug 20 UTC
Yeah, I agree with kingpin that not all alliances and such need to be announced. You still can (announce a defensive league to scare people off) but I would not force people to reveal every detail of their pact to everyone else.
Bonatogether (1199 D)
11 Aug 20 UTC
bump
Love where this is going folks.
ezpickins (1795 D)
17 Aug 20 UTC
Can we get a list of what has to be declared in public chat? Obviously declarations of war
Bonatogether (1199 D)
17 Aug 20 UTC
I would add defensive pacts to that, although I'm not sure if exact terms should be revealed as well. I also think that people should be able to reveal more than is required.
Is there still a space for this
Bonatogether (1199 D)
17 Aug 20 UTC
Yep! You're welcome to join.

New list:
1) AKeeFaTheHun
2) berberstrijder
3) Bonatogether
4) ezpickins
5) ingebot
6) Macca573
7) Player5
8) ScubaSteve
9) Swede03
10) The Ambassador
11) ubercacher16
12) kingpin
13) mouse ?
14) rosaville.bain
Player5 (2198 D)
18 Aug 20 UTC
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Do we want to create separate games with different rules structures? That way we can try them out and see what we like and what we don't?
ubercacher16 (1945 D)
18 Aug 20 UTC
I like that idea @Player5
Player5 (2198 D)
19 Aug 20 UTC
I created a game: gameID=45421

Read the description for the rules I compiled based off feedback from the state machine model. Good luck!
Player5 (2198 D)
19 Aug 20 UTC
If people want I can create another but this one be completely private states. The rules for updating states will be the same, but you make changes "publicly recognized" by letting me know (via PM) and I will PM you with any changes to your country's relationship states?
Bonatogether (1199 D)
19 Aug 20 UTC
Joined! :D
The Ambassador (2027 D (B) (B))
21 Aug 20 UTC
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Wow, you snooze you lose! Was busy with work stuff this week and the first game has already filled up!

Can I suggest a second game is held off just a little but to see what elements of game 1 cause any issues, so if the rule decription needs tweaking we do that then?

A super big thanks to Player5 too for pulling all this together.

BTW, in the podcast that will come out in a couple of hours I talk a little about the concept if anyone is interested.
Player5 (2198 D)
31 Aug 20 UTC
Anyone want to sub into a fairly bad board position with multiple people attacking you?
gameID=45421
GOD (1601 D Mod (B))
01 Sep 20 UTC
@Amby I'd like to be in round 2 :)
Swede03 (1178 D)
01 Sep 20 UTC
I'd also like to be in round 2.
ScubaSteve (1342 D)
01 Sep 20 UTC
I'd like to be in round 2 as well. If you hungry vultures don't steal my spot again!
Player5 (2198 D)
03 Sep 20 UTC
There's always room for both! (seriously, though we'd like to have someone fill in, even if it is a bad position and there's a high chance it wont be for very long gameID=45421)

Also, you all have a different set of rules to test (e.g. private alliances) or run it back with the same set of rules to get a wider perspective, I will set up a game for that?
That'd be awesome Player5. Would be worth factoring in any lessons from the first game which created major issues. I'm in.
Halt (2090 D)
03 Sep 20 UTC
I'd be interested in joining this game
ScubaSteve (1342 D)
03 Sep 20 UTC
If no one else has any actual interest, I'll take Israel in the first game, but would hate for that to keep me from taking part in the second.
Player5 (2198 D)
03 Sep 20 UTC
Go for it! (you're more than welcome to participate in both!)
ScubaSteve (1342 D)
03 Sep 20 UTC
I would join, but I don't have the invite code handy.
Bonatogether (1199 D)
03 Sep 20 UTC
It's in the description, but here it is: "IReadTheGameDescription" without the quotes.

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Flame (1133 D (B))
Mon 11 AM UTC
Cancel not Draw!
I wish in wDip engine there was not a possibility to vote draw when all the starting powers are alive. Cause multiple games are played by rookies and they do several seasons and press "vote Draw". In this case we have misunderstanding in variant statistics - tons of draws with no combat at all. If all powers left on the board -> it's not a draw! Game should be cancelled!!!
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The Ambassador (2027 D (B) (B))
02 Sep 16 UTC
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New podcast for online Dip games
Hi everyone

Kaner and I have started a podcast about playing Diplomacy online....
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kaner406 (1805 D Mod (B) (B))
08 Sep 18 UTC
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Variant Development Thread
This thread is made for the express purpose of cutting down of multiple threads that deal with new variants, ideas, concepts etc...
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David Hood (977 D)
Sat 17 Oct UTC
Oct 2020 edition of Deadline News from the Diplomacy Broadcast Network
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjB5mUx3h2Y
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Fake Al (1737 D)
15 Mar 20 UTC
Tiglath-Pileser Development
Just to keep things organized, I'll keep my questions in my own thread, which are focused on my first try at creating a variant, one set in the Iron Age middle east.

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DaveSpermbank (887 D)
Sun 04 Oct UTC
Minimize/hide chats with players
Hello. In a big game I may have 15-20 people i communicate with. Could the vdip people add a feature where you can hide or minimize some chats?
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Rusty1428 (862 D)
Sat 10 Oct UTC
Why does NMRing stop you rejoining games
I can understand why there’s a temporary ban on joining new games and making games but banning you from rejoining the game you were kicked from seems like it causes even more disruption to the game in question.

Disclaimer: I’m a bit salty about missing the deadline for a game by a few minutes because I misremembered when the timer would tick over
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Fake Al (1737 D)
11 Apr 20 UTC
Bronze Age Diplomacy Development
New variant being developed in collaboration with a player from Discord. Set in 1350 BC.
https://vdiplomacy.com/variants.php?variantID=142
Will probably be looking to run a test soon.
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Macca573 (1141 D)
27 Feb 20 UTC
Around the World Tournament
Come one, come all, to the newest tournament to hit V-dip's pages.

The Around the World Tournament!
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David E. Cohen (1000 D)
Sun 04 Oct UTC
Revising Mandate of Heaven
Its all Kaner and Amby's fault.
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David E. Cohen (1000 D)
30 Sep 20 UTC
Playtesters (and possibly a GM) Needed for Unconstitutional, a New Variant
See following.
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micahbales (989 D)
07 Sep 20 UTC
Stalemate lines in Sengoku: Nagashino (V6)
Are there stalemate lines in this variant? What are they? I could not find any article on this.
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Jrodan (1655 D)
27 Sep 20 UTC
Europa Renovatio - Early Game Replacement
Hey All, looking for a replacement in an ER game that's just getting started. Currently in the Builds phase after the first year, playing as Portugal. Please DM if intereted
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David E. Cohen (1000 D)
15 Sep 20 UTC
Comments Wanted for new Variant: Unconstitutional
I am looking for comments and criticism for Unconstitutional, a variant in development.
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David Hood (977 D)
23 Sep 20 UTC
Sept 2020 edition of Deadline News from the Diplomacy Broadcast Network
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Sgo2TXUHNs&t=192s
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Argentinean Empire (1643 D)
29 Mar 20 UTC
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Tournament: Cold War II
Welcome to the sequel to 2018’s Cold War tournament. Has it really been two years? Let’s get started.
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umbletheheep (1011 D)
20 Sep 20 UTC
The Briefing's Anniversary Issue
Hey everyone. This last issue - https://mailchi.mp/acc5851825e2/anniversary-edition was our 52nd edition. That's 52 Diplomacy strategy articles, tournament updates, and other hobby news.

I know many of you here on vDip subscribe to the Diplomacy Briefing - https://www.diplomacybriefing.com. Thanks for your support. Here's hoping for another year.
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Caustic (923 D)
13 Sep 20 UTC
Bitcoins and Gambling
Anyone into free?
Anyone Into Gambling?
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The Ambassador (2027 D (B) (B))
11 Apr 20 UTC
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Big Hitters vDip game
I'm interested in creating a new game for players with 2000+ vDip points. Password protected.

If you meet this criteria let me know here that you're interested. Once we know how many players, we can decide which variant etc.
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drano019 (2457 D Mod)
17 Aug 20 UTC
Europa Renovatio - Team Game Interest
See below.
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ghostronin (1190 D)
05 Sep 20 UTC
Pirates Variant - Privateer vs Authorizing Nation Help
See thread.
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CBro27 (1344 D)
04 Sep 20 UTC
Sea Lanes Proposal/Discussion
See thread.
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jason4747 (1139 D)
04 Sep 20 UTC
Request for Replacement
Europa Renovatio variant, 1 day 12 h deadlines, decent but not great position, fantastic allies, lots of drama, and good Diplomacy fun. Game is currently on a 3 day delay, next orders due Monday at 3pm, so lots of time to jump in and chat. Please PM if interested.
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idk how to design maps
pls help lmao. I want a map put into Badfrog's "Conspiracy" app and they get their maps here but i don't know how to do anything apart from draw and colour the map in paint.net
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the_majesty (1375 D)
26 Aug 20 UTC
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Another Public Press Divided States game
Hey folks! After the thrilling Draw conclusion of State Your Business, I've started up another Public Press Divided States game, this time with the win condition of 50 SCs. The last one was a lot, and presumably this one will be too!

?gameID=45509
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