tobi1: Crowns 4500(-500), Pounds 3000(-500), Francs 0(-100), Marks 2500(+500), Lire 0, Roubles 3000(+1500), Piastres 0, US$ 2842

Well, there goes the Pastries. And I can't imagine the Franc is far behind.

Those pastries looked so sweet and tempting at the time. Let that be a lesson to us all.

Yes...all shall learn of the fatal key Lepanto, and the Austrian-Italian conflict that must ensue.

Unless Austria and Italy are honourable enough...

So where do I go for a refund on my Turkish Piastres? Or do I have to keep them all in mint condition so I can sell them to a bank note collector in 100 years time?

Interestingly that well respected font of knowledge, Wikipedia, redirects the Turkish Piastre to the Kurus as the unit of currency (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Turkish_piastre).

I expect fasces and butterhead to now edit that entry and say the Turkish piastre was replaced in 1903 by the Italian Lira and Russian Rouble.

-------

TURKEY INSOLVENT! Desperate investors travel to Armenia to try to recoup lost stock from fleeing Turkish bankers.

-------

Autumn 1903 currency values:

Austrian Crowns: $2.66
English Pounds: $2.04
French Francs: $0.57
German Marks: $2
Italian Lire: $1.49
Russian Roubles: $2.13
Turkish Piastres: $0

The total amount of each currency sold/bought is:
Austrian Crowns: 3500 sold, 0 bought = -3500, down 0.35
English Pounds: 1800 sold, 3600 bought = +1800, up 0.18
French Francs: 1800 sold, 300 bought = -1500, down 0.15
German Marks: 3500 sold, 800 bought = -2700, down 0.27
Italian Lire: 1800 sold, 5200 bought = +3400, up 0.34
Russian Roubles: 3500 sold, 0 bought = -3500, down 0.35
Turkish Piastres: 1000 sold, 0 bought = INSOLVENT

Players' Net Worth & current Victory Points:
Devonian: $31131.52, vp = 690.12
Diplomat33: $7315, vp = 90
L Podolski: $15252, vp = 438
Guaroz: $42579.09, vp = 1220
gman314: $31569.19, vp = 716.08
tobi1: $32717, vp = 710
drano019: $25241.5, vp = 847
hiprox: $20932.05, vp = 537.8
Ambassador: $33272.5, vp = 998
amisond: $19270, vp = 476

-------

Who holds what & what was bought and sold in Autumn 1903?

Devonian: Crowns 4401(-500), Pounds 100(-500), Francs 0(-500), Marks 0(-500), Lire 7001(-500), Roubles 0, Piastres 0, US$8789.37

Diplomat33: Crowns 500, Pounds 500, Francs 1500, Marks 0, Lire 0(-500), Roubles 0, Piastres 0(-500), US$4110

L Podolski: Crowns 2000(-500), Pounds 1000(+500), Francs 1500(-500), Marks 2500(+800), Lire 1300, Roubles 0(-500), Piastres 0, US$100

Guaroz: Crowns 7000(-500), Pounds 4700(+2400), Francs 0, Marks 1300(-500), Lire 0(-500), Roubles 5500(-500), Piastres 0, US$56.09

gman314: Crowns 3500(-500), Pounds 1500(-500), Francs 0, Marks 3000(-500), Lire 3000(+2400), Roubles 701(-500), Piastres 0, US$7236.06

tobi1: Crowns 4000(-500), Pounds 2500(-500), Francs 0, Marks 2000(-500), Lire 0, Roubles 2500(-500), Piastres 0, US$7652

drano019: Crowns 1000, Pounds 3000, Francs 0, Marks 650, Lire 200, Roubles 6950, Piastres 0, US$60

hiprox: Crowns 0, Pounds 800(-300), Francs 1005(-300), Marks 5735(-500), Lire 600(-300), Roubles 1120(-500), Piastres 0, US$3977.6

Amby: Crowns 4100(-500), Pounds 1350(+700), Francs 950(-500), Marks 5000(-500), Lire 2800(+2800), Roubles 2300(-500), Piastres 0(-500), US$37

amisond: Crowns 500(-500), Pounds 5000, Francs 500(+300), Marks 0(-500), Lire 0, Roubles 1700(-500), Piastres 0, US$3834

----

A big thanks to King Atom for playing! Also remember to PM your orders to me early.

I'll also be PM everyone soon as to their current stocks in holding.

Thanks!

----

Wow. Harsh turn. Everybody dropped down their Net Worths. The only one who increased his Net Worth is Devonian (+857$). Given the circumstances, it's a very considerable result.
Who knows how could he do it. :-)
______________________
Thanks a lot, KA!

L Podolski: Crowns 2000(-500), Pounds 1000(+500), Francs 1500(-500), Marks 2500(+800), Lire 1300, Roubles 0(-500), Piastres 0, US$401

The lire was the only currency to rise in value, thats how devonian did it..

Pound went up too.

Thanks for thanking me, guys! That was a lot more fun than a regular game, knowing that people were relying their money on me...Kind of funny, actually.

Looking forward to your EoG. If you like you can PM me it and I can store it for publication in the thread when the game finishes.

An interesting point of view is what you can see from Ranking. No rank was swapped last turn, but something changed in relative strenght of positions. In the following table you can see each one's gap from the first, both in the previous turn and now, and how it changed.
Everyone gained something except Amby, who've lost his 2850 Piastres that averagely paid 0.59$ each (so he lost 1510$. Also D33 lost something because of Piastres).

1903
Rk...Name..................Gap Spring........Gap Now.......Difference
..1.-.Guaroz................(46.459,09)....(42.579,09)..................N/A
..2.-.Ambassador..........-9.044,59.......-9.269,59...........-225,00
..3.-.tobi1......................-11.377,09.......-9.862,09.......+1.515,00
..4.-.gman314..............-13.899,55.....-11.009,90.......+2.889,65
..5.-.Devonian..............-16.185,56.....-11.447,57......+4.737,99
..6.-.drano019.............-18.867,59.....-17.337,59.......+1.530,00
..7.-.hiporox.................-23.762,24.....-21.629,94.......+2.132,30
..8.-.amisond...............-27.244,09.....-23.309,09.......+3.935,00
..9.-.L.Podolsky...........-29.928,09.....-27.026,09.......+2.902,00
10.-.Diplomat33.........-37.734,09.....-35.264,09........+2.470,00

Since Devo's the one who gained the most (actually, also amisond gained something: 55$), these are the relative gaps for this turn

..1.-.Devonian............(+857.99$)
..2.-.amisond................-802,99
..3.-.L.Podolsky.........-1.835,99
..4.-.gman314...........-1.848,34
..5.-.Diplomat33.......-2.267,99
..6.-.hiporox...............-2.605,69
..7.-.drano019...........-3.207,99
..8.-.tobi1...................-3.222,99
..9.-.Guaroz...............-4.737,99
10.-.Ambassador.....-4.962,99

Now someone may object that since basically everyone lost something nothing changed that much. Well yes, infact Ranking in Net Worth didn't change. What changed a bit is the relative ratio of what everyone's owning. This is:
Someone's Net Worth / Total Net Worth.
It changed a bit last turn, with 4 people gaining something and 6 people losing:

...........................Difference.........Spring...........Now
..1.-.Devonian........+1,04%.......10,95%......11,99%
..2.-.amisond..........+0,47%.........6,95%........7,42%
..3.-.gman314........+0,39%.......11,77%......12,16%
..4.-.L.Podolsky......+0,01%.........5,98%........5,99%
..5.-.tobi1.................-0,09%.......12,69%......12,60%
..6.-.hiporox.............-0,14%........8,21%.........8,07%
..7.-.drano019.........-0,26%.........9,98%........9,72%
..8.-.Diplomat33.....-0,33%.........3,15%.........2,82%
..9.-.Guaroz.............-0,40%.......16,80%......16,40%
10.-.Ambassador...-0,70%.......13,53%......12,83%
----------------------------------------------------------------------
TOT column..............0,00%....100,00%....100,00%


Only +1.04% for my friend Devo. Nonono, guys . It's not good.
Although he's very close (11.99%) to them now, he didn't even outranked gman, tobi & amby.
Guys, yes Devo got more than double Lire than anyone else, so he gains more than anyone when somebody's buying them. But 5,200 pieces are not enough yet. If you want to make Devonian the winner, you must buy more Lire! :-)

Alright, kaner, I'll write it up as soon as I get back from the eight hour band camp interest meeting today...

So I gained 0.01%, heh

Guaroz, why are you trying to trick people into not buying Lire? Its the only safe currency under $2...

It's obvious. Guaroz is winning right now and stands to gain the most from maintaining the status quo.

I'm kind of annoyed that KA got eliminated. I was hoping to do a neat little flip on the Piastre by asking a bunch of people to buy up to 500. Then, we could all sell in the fall for a decent profit. It won't work on the Franc though because too many people will be selling those.

@fasces
[Again? Please stop breaking rules talking about investors'strategies. It's a game you're not in and you must not talk about while it's ONGOING. Like I cannot say you're tricking canaduh on your Global Chat, you cannot say an investor is tricking another on this thread. They're 2 different games. Thank you.]
That said, well fasces, looks like you've bothered to read only the last 4 lines of my previous message. Numbers say that when somebody buy Lire, Devo's Net Worth is pushed up much more than any other. After last turn, Devo (11.99%) is breathing on the neck of people who were far away 2 days ago: gman (12,16%), tobi (12,60%) & amby (12,83%).

@gman314.
Well yes. I want to mantain the status quo. That it's mantaining itself, btw, even getting better: actually, the gap from the 2nd following me (Amby) just increased by a 0.30%.
But the only one who, ATM, can reach me at my stratospheric 16,40% it's not one of you three at 12% or so. It's Devonian. He is scaring me, not you.
You should put your efforts in finding a way that makes YOU win. I don't understand why you're trying to make Devo be the winner. It makes no sense...
I wouldn't complain on our Global if someone who's playing well is reaching me. I'm complaining because someone is reaching me only because it looks like someone else isn't able to make his pocket calculator work. :-)

PS. Can anybody explain to fasces that whether the Lira is worth 0.01$ or 10.00$ or anything in our game, he still needs 18 SCs to win his game, hence he'd better focus on it and leave us alone? This is not Bankroll.

Guaroz: I really don't think that Net Worth is a reasonable metric. The amount of paper funds you have is really not meaningful because of the sales cap. Victory points aren't really a good metric either because those can change quite a bit. I think the best metric right now is actually Available Worth. Your Available Worth is the amount of money you can muster on any given turn. So, at the start of the game, every player had a NW of $7000 but an AW of $3500. In AW, Devonian actually drops behind significantly because his holdings are concentrated. While Ambassador can sell 500 of everything if he wants to, Devonian can only sell 500 Crowns, 500 Lire and 100 Pounds this turn, putting his AW significantly lower. Also, purchasing Lire has nowhere near the effect on Devonian's AW as it does on his NW, so Lire is actually not as bad a purchase as you're making it out to be.

I jumped from 5th to 4th place... by not losing value along with everyone else. Kind of funny that this is scary!

Guaroz wants to drive the Lire down so he can buy up more than anyone else. Thats the bottom line.

@ Devo
4th place.... in which ranking?

"Guaroz wants to drive the Lire down so he can buy up more than anyone else."

I can buy Lire... with what dollars? I got all my money stuck in investiments and I own only 56$.
There are people owning thousands dollars.... they can buy more Lire than me at any time.
I don't understand what you mean, unless you made a mistake and you actually meant:
"Guaroz can buy up LESS than anyone else."

Devo is looking at VPs Guaroz is looking at dollars...

@ gman. Nice idea the NW/AW thing. I have to study it.

Guaroz, The value of your holdings are way more than anyone else. If you can get people not to buy lire one more turn, and you sell, you can buy up plenty.

Actually, I'm 4th place in $ and 5th in VP. Guaroz is in 1st with both, by a large margin.

@fasces. VP Ranking:

1 - G u a r o z 1220
2 - A m b a s s a d o r 998
3 - d r a n o 0 1 9 847
4 - g m a n 3 1 4 716
5 - t o b i 1 710
6 - D e v o n i a n 690
7 - h i p o r o x 538
8 - a m i s o n d 476
9 - L u k a s P o d o l s k y 438
10- D i p l o m a t 3 3 90

@Devo. $:
1 - G u a r o z........................42.579,09
2 - A m b a s s a d o r..........33.309,50
3 - t o b i 1..........................32.717,00
4 - g m a n 3 1 4................31.569,19
5 - D e v o n i a n.................31.131,52
6 - d r a n o 0 1 9...............25.241,50
7 - h i p o r o x......................20.950,43
8 - a m i s o n d...................19.270,00
9 - L u k a s P o d o l s k y.15.553,00
10 - D i p l o m a t 3 3..........7.315,00
TOT........................................259.636,29