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The Real Wheat (0 D)
16 Nov 17 UTC
New Maps
I'm super new to the site and I was curious how new maps were made and/or submitted. I noticed a lot of the maps look a bit old and it got me thinking about what it would take to create a higher resolution version of a game map. Are there certain file formats a map must be in or is this all a responsibility for site admins only? Thanks!
byoxygen (804 D)
17 Nov 17 UTC
Have you got webdiplomacy experience?
The Real Wheat (0 D)
17 Nov 17 UTC
I have a decent size pool of friends that have been playing diplomacy semi-regularly since college, and we recently started letting computers adjudicate our games (wonderful), but to answer your question, no I do not have specific experience with webdiplomacy. Is that pretty critical to understanding map creation?
JECE (1192 D)
17 Nov 17 UTC
Hopefully somebody who actually does this can answer your questions, but in the meantime I would check out the open source code. I can say that this is not "all a responsibility for site admins only". There are several volunteers who aren't administrators or mods working on variant development. You can find a list on the Variants webpage.
yeah, I saw this post, but didn't have the answer to the question regarding file format, was hoping someone else might chime in. I'm low-tech, all my maps are generated from existing images, and then edited and saved in the file format that the old Realpolitik software uses (256 bitmaps) since a lot of PBEM folks still use that adjudicator.
JECE (1192 D)
17 Nov 17 UTC
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the maps are php.
PHP is a language, not a graphics format, jece. The limb broke and you fell to your death an the rocks at the foot of Gibraltar. :-)
tobi1 (1496 D Mod (B))
17 Nov 17 UTC
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The maps itself are stored as png. There are usually four map images for a variant, two for each map size (small/large). One of the two images contains the territories of the map where each land territory gets a unique color (for internal purposes), the other contains the names-overlay. You can check this for example for the Classic variant in the files section (which can be reached via the variant page). Things might get a bit more complicated for large maps or FoW-variants.

Maps are already printed at highest possible resolution (each pixel of your screen representing the map contains one pixel of the map image). Therefore I will concentrate on how to improve the "optical appearance".
The software makes it impossible to use anti-aliasing for the internal maps, so a the only way to improve the optical appearance of a map would be to use larger images for the internally stored maps and resize them before they are printed in the browser. Something similar is already achieved for large maps as a "zoom function", but only works on some browsers (e.g. Firefox).
If the goal would be a better optical appearance rather than the "zoom", a better coding solution would have to be made. This might result in more divergence from the original webdip code, but Oli, the site admin, tries to avoid this.
In addition and most importantly, maps would have to redrawn (just rescaling the internal maps will probably not work, since your graphics program will probably introduce some sort of anti-aliasing in this step or you will just get some "enlarged pixels", which wouldn't give any benefit). After the maps are redrawn at higher resolution, the software have to be told to use new coordinates for e.g. drawing units on the board. Both map drawing and inserting territory data are tasks, that can get time-consuming, so making a solution for all the variants would be *very* much work.

Conclusion: A better optical appearance of the maps is difficult if not impossible to be achieved with the current webdip-software. There are some examples, where brilliant map makers achieved very nice-looking maps despite the limitation of no anti-aliasing. But that is not a matter of improving resolution.

If you are interested in variant development itself, the following place is currently the best to start:
http://lab.diplomail.ru
The Real Wheat (0 D)
17 Nov 17 UTC
That is an amazing and though response. Thanks so much for running me through the answer and the reasoning behind it. There is obviously a lot more to map creation than I imagined, but I will definitely do more research and may see if I can play around with some of the concepts you laid out.
JECE (1192 D)
17 Nov 17 UTC
YouCan'tHandleTheTruth: Yet they save as "map.php.png". Ha! You can't handle the truth! ;-)
The map behind the scenes is modified by PHP code to add units and color territories and draw movement/support/convoy lines. That is not the map, but the turn result, which has the map *and* the results displayed on it.
ScubaSteve (1123 D)
17 Nov 17 UTC
So, should I be playing using firefox instead of Safari? Is that why I suck?


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Major Problems (1296 D)
17 Nov 17 UTC
Imperium Diplomacy
Under the variants, I noticed one called Imperium Diplomacy, but was not able to create a game using this variant. Is it a discontinued variant, or under a different name? It looks like an interesting one, especially the beginning turns.
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nopunin10did (1011 D)
30 May 17 UTC
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1900 for vDip: Progress Report (ongoing)
As mentioned in another thread, I've been working on the code and assets necessary to port Baron M. Powell's variant 1900 to vDip and/or webDip.

In order to keep myself accountable in some fashion to actually complete this task, and not just talk about it, I've created a small project plan where I can mark my progress.
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DemonOverlord (910 D)
07 Oct 17 UTC
Vdip colour scheme
Hi, I think vdip would be more successful with a different colour scheme. Also less painful to look at.
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rebecca02 (1000 D X)
15 Nov 17 UTC
locks of hair
Beautiful.
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JECE (1192 D)
10 Nov 17 UTC
Custom phase bug
This might be better in the Mods section, but I thouht I'd post here first to see if other users have any input.

I'm trying to create a new game with a custom phase length. When I select "Custom" from the drop-down menu, nothing happens. However, when I select "2 days, 2 hours", I've given the option to input a phase length. Hopefully this is an easy fix.
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KingCyrus (1678 D)
01 Nov 17 UTC
WWII Update Errors
Hello, I am currently in a game of WWII and I was just informed that it has been updated, "fixing" problems with dual coasts. This supposedly means that Palestine now has two coasts. However, I have a fleet in the Red Sea and it can no longer move to Palestine! Please fix?
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RUFFHAUS 8 (2501 D)
20 Oct 17 UTC
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Replacement Player(s) Needed
I need replacement players game sitters for several games:
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peterlund (1080 D)
30 Sep 17 UTC
I have reported 2 Issues for vdiplomacy to kestasjk/webDiplomacy
Bug 1: "Turn limited vDip games should end after possible retreats" (Issue 261)

Bug/Questions 2; "How does vDip decide who the winner is?" (Issue 262)
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BenjaminHester (1029 D)
25 Oct 17 UTC
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not quite ready, but... SE Asia 800
going to refine Balkans 1860 and Sengoku: Nagashino as needed before trying to implement this one. Thought I would just give y'all a peek behind the curtain. Thoughts welcome! (it has a few known imbalances to address, but it's close.)

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2CiokzfWGBhTlU0QTZZNzNrUEU
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Jamie_T (895 D)
04 Oct 17 UTC
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MAFIA 1 - GAME THREAD
This is the game thread for vDip Mafia, Episode 1

Please DO NOT post in this thread if you are not playing in the Mafia game.
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Flame (0 D (B))
23 Oct 17 UTC
Austrian question once again!
Please help with testing a map "War of Austrian Succession"
http://lab.diplomail.ru/board.php?gameID=51

Fast gunboat.
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Flame (0 D (B))
05 Oct 17 UTC
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Classic 1898 Variant adaptation
I do the adaptation for 1898 variant. Who knows the author of the variant to mention him in the description. Or it's Hasbro itself?

http://lab.diplomail.ru/board.php?gameID=43
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Tactics
In year one when you just meeting everyone, maybe there anonymous but for sure you don't know any of them. How do you know who to trust?
They can be lying through their teeth and text doesn't show tone of voice or eye contact so you have no idea. If you believe them they may stab you. If you don't you venture into a DMZ and piss them off. Ask around to others and you get rumors or nothing. This game seems so much better suited to face to face.
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Enriador (1374 D)
17 Oct 17 UTC
Classic Mini-Tourney - Is there interest?
I thought about making a mini-tourney - comprising a single game - using a similar scheme to most Face-to-Face scoring systems.

Basically it'll be a Classic game, running until Fall 1907 and a PPSC structure. The bet would be 100 points - for a ultimate pot worth 700 points.
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Grahamso1 (1319 D)
13 Oct 17 UTC
Unable to enter certain orders. How to contact GM
Can someone help. I am playing one of the odder variants. New for me. I’ve read the variant page repeatedly and seems I ought to be able to enter a certain order. But it’s not available as an option. (Maybe I’m missing something. Or maybe a bug). Emailed the mods. But how do I contact GameMaster min a gunboat game?
Thanks
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The Ambassador (1639 D (B) (B))
09 Oct 17 UTC
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I love vDip
Enjoying this new golden age of variant development.

Hat tip to Oli and those building variants and supporting their development in the background.
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FafevPlinskv (1201 D)
10 Oct 17 UTC
Taking over
Need help with a gunboat game, good position but sadly don't have time for it for a moment. PM for more details
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The Ambassador (1639 D (B) (B))
08 Oct 17 UTC
Napoleonic
Hey, where are the neutrals?

;-)
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Jamie_T (895 D)
10 Sep 17 UTC
vDiplomacy Forum Mafia
Would anyone be interested in playing forum based Mafia / Werewolf here, on the vDip forum?
154 replies
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Enriador (1374 D)
04 Oct 17 UTC
Reliability system
I looked over Google but couldn't find any topic explaining the reliability system - can anyone hand out an example, and explain how noobs are handled? Thanks a lot in advance!
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nopunin10did (1011 D)
19 Sep 17 UTC
Win Conditions less than majority
Some of you with a bit more experience at vDip can clue me in here.

How does vDip currently adjudicate when more than one player meets the SC requirement for victory simultaneously? More details below.
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brainbomb (681 D)
01 Oct 17 UTC
Variance
Varients my style Skippin paddy wagon rattle dash colum mile Flyin off the handle and I dial Clone pile vna for my DNA Rabid as a rattler in a CNA gettin paid like the Destin Pa Handle this festive kudza On a fish. Get you lil bliss Gimme smooch. Im a wish.
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Flame (0 D (B))
28 Sep 17 UTC
Habelya variant bug?
In Habelya-variant: Fleet from Bay of Holgii can support move S.Holgii (Sc) from Holgian Sea.
Is it bug or normal situation?
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Anyone else have hobbies outside of Diplomacy or gaming in general?
I am into model railroading as well as fine scale modeling (military), and balsa & tissue aircraft building. What are you all into?
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Argentinean Empire (982 D)
27 Apr 17 UTC
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Word Association Thread
Hello! I saw a thread like this on WebDip. We start with a word, and you then post the one word that pops into your mind after you read that word. The first word is FIRST.
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Major Problems (1296 D)
23 Sep 17 UTC
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Live game anyone?
If anyone likes live games (gunboat, anon) let's see if we can get one going. Only an hour to sign up!
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fasces349 (1069 D)
26 Dec 10 UTC
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Advertise live games here
Like in webdiplo, this thread will be used to help people find live games
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BenjaminHester (1029 D)
14 Sep 17 UTC
While I'm going through the long slog of rebuilding Sengoku...
...any interest in a vDip implementation of my most recent, and arguably best balanced variant that rolled off the assembly line before my last long Dip sabbatical?

http://dipwiki.com/index.php?title=Balkans1860
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NManock18 (983 D)
18 Sep 17 UTC
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Variants
Are there any tips on software to use for designing a variant? Thanks!
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