gameID=29896
I had to create a new one in order to have Ezio in.
RR requirement was too high.
The password is the same I sent by PMs

So who is missing?

Sorry that was me. I've been rather busy the last few days, and I haven't been able to make my usual diplomacy rounds. Things should calm back down after a few days though!

how difficult is it to have the FOG code on other varients ??

It's actually more of a hack of the drawmap.php file, you can have a look at the code for the variants that have it in the variant information pages. 1066, Classic FoG and RatWars all use the same basic hack.

http://vdiplomacy.com/files.php?variantID=30

It would be so appropriate in historical variants like Ancmed - eye teeth, give, if Yoda had, still.

LoL

Foggy Known world 901 would be great also

Fog 901 would be brilliant. Not /too/ large that it's irrelevant what's behind it on the other side of the map, but large enough to have moments of "what the hell is an Indian fleet doing in the Atlantic? ...oh, shit"

Yes, I absolutely agree. Fog 901 would be an awesome variant to have onsite

Fog in a new map that no one has seen yet is what I am asking for from Santa.

Scuba, and well, actually everyone -

There's a very similar concept to this that has been played a handful of times by email. It's called "Explore!", and it's a ridiculously fun variant. If you want to learn more about it (and perhaps pester the guy who usually GMs them into making a new map and new game), go to: http://www.freewebs.com/tomahaha/

Basically though, it's a game where you don't know the map at all (think the beginning of a game of Civilization), and as you explore, you reveal more of the map. You also don't get to contact anyone until you "meet" them on the map. It's pretty crazy, but in a good way. I've found myself staying up awaiting the newest email so I can see what part of the map I "found" on the last turn more than once. Anyone who loves the idea of a new map where you don't know it's shape at the start, or who is a fan of Civilization and Diplomacy should give it a looksie!

Explore! is well worth trying for those who haven't done so. [I'm guessing the ! just comes at the end of anything Tomahama does]

I'd be very interested if another game occurs.

Explore rocks! You just need mature players that will stick by the rules. I'll also throw my name in the hat if another Explore game occurs.

Dr. -

I guess you didn't get the memo that Tomahaha is just Jeb Bush's Diplomacy alter-ego? The exclamation point totally gives it away.

But yeah, Explore is awesome. It's like playing an interactive game of Civilization, and you even get to design your own tiny flag!

As annoying as Tommy is, his Explore variant is pretty damn cool. Drano and I have been talking about running an Explore game as dual GMs. I'm not sure if he's still up for the challenge, but I hope he is. It's not going to happen next week, but it is on my agenda to host one, and when I do, it's going to be an epic game, not a sprint to 15% control of the map.

I would love to participate in an Explore! game. It sounds awesome. How do you stop players from seeing the provinces on the map?

Ezio -

It's a Play-by-Email game, so individual maps get sent out to every player *only* showing what they have seen. No one gets to see the master map until the game is over.

depending on when the mr.meme's lab gets up and running I was thinking about porting this map:

http://diplomiscellany.tripod.com/id23.html

Ah. That makes sense. If you're looking for more players...

*spoiler alert*

Since last Autumn, after the feedbacks gathered with those exploration games, I've been thinking to introduce something similar to this "Explore!" in Vdip, making a step towards "Civilization" on a FoW based vdip platform.
There're some major coding obstacles to overcome, though, and I'm waiting to see if the new lab can help in this direction.
Unfortunately, month after month, this "new lab" sounds like Hitler's secret weapons: something that gets often named, but never comes actually.
No pun intended to meme. We all give our contribution for free, and in our spare time.

Isn't the the map for the explore! game created as the game progresses?

Kaner - It's created ahead of time, just the size and shape of the map is hidden from the players views until they explore the map. It works basically exactly as original Civilization does. The map is there, you just can't see it. Once you explore, your view remains open.

Thanks for that - but each game is a unique map right?

Absolutely kaner. Every game is a new map made by the GM, that way no one has any advantage over the others in terms of knowing where SCs are or where opponents start.

That's also part of the reason it's PBEM (other reasons include rules that can't get coded at vdip from what i understand), in that one has to manually make a map so that people don't know what's going on around them.

gameID=29896 really should replace france rather than keep hoping they'll actually put orders in this time

gameID=29896 Agreed. It's getting old.

Well, that was fun. If we run it again, could we allow global chat once everyone alive can communicate with each other?
Thanks for running, Decima Legio.